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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: footiestuds on Tuesday 31 October 23 21:01 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I would like to see an obit for Julius C Anderson b 1893/4 Denmark who died 5 Jun 1935 Edmonton, Alberta. He was living in Calahoo but I haven't been able to find a burial for him :(
He married Mary Watt Brough b 1898 Scotland, in 1927 Edmonton but is a widower on the 1931 Census - I have most other records for both of them but can't find her death/burial
Any help would be appreciated.
Deb
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His death record should tell you where he's buried:
https://atms.alberta.ca/paa/Store/default.aspx?tagid=41
There is a Mary A. Anderson who dies in 1931 in Edmonton:
Name Mary A Anderson
Death Date 1931
Death Place Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Registration Number 358
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Found an obit for Julius in the Edmonton Bulletin on 6 June 1935:
JULIUS C. ANDERSON -- Of Calahoo, Alberta passed away in an Edmonton hospital on June 5, aged 40 years. Survived by one brother Peter of Seven Persons, Alberta, and five sisters: Mrs. J. Christiansen, Mrs. J. Jensen, Mrs. Peter Peterson, Mrs. Peter Iverson, and Mrs. Anton Frericksen, all of Denmark....interment will take place in the Edmonton cemetery.
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Found an obit for Julius in the Edmonton Bulletin on 6 June 1935:
JULIUS C. ANDERSON -- Of Calahoo, Alberta passed away in an Edmonton hospital on June 5, aged 40 years. Survived by one brother Peter of Seven Persons, Alberta, and five sisters: Mrs. J. Christiansen, Mrs. J. Jensen, Mrs. Peter Peterson, Mrs. Peter Iverson, and Mrs. Anton Frericksen, all of Denmark....interment will take place in the Edmonton cemetery.
Perhaps an error with the date…
Julius Anderson, died “about” 1934.
Burial Date - 7 June 1934
Cemetery - Edmonton
Burial Place - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Details found on a pay site
Seems too coincidental not to be him?
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Entry on the Alberta Death Index has him as Julius C. Andersen passing away in 1935:
Name Julius C Andersen
Gender Male
Death Date 5 Jun 1935
Death Place Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Registration Number 101-415
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Possibly a transcription error somewhere?
https://coewebapps.edmonton.ca/cemeteries/
[Apparently you have to type the name again. It removed the details when I did a copy and paste.]
I originally typed
Julius
Anders (to catch spelling variations)
Added: Eileen, I didn’t mean to imply that you made the error. Sorry if it came across that way. :-\
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Thank you both for your help, it's given me more info to work with :)
Eileen - Mary A Anderson isn't her going by her bio on findagrave :(
I'm beginning to think this elusive Lady may have returned to Scotland but she's just as elusive on travel records too!
Lisa - Details found on a pay site - Which is this or is it one already posted ?
Thanks again :)
Deb
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His death record should tell you where he's buried:
https://atms.alberta.ca/paa/Store/default.aspx?tagid=41
There is a Mary A. Anderson who dies in 1931 in Edmonton:
Name Mary A Anderson
Death Date 1931
Death Place Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Registration Number 358
Obit for Mary Anne Anderson - already clipped - Edmonton Journal
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Thu, 25 Jun 1931 Page 18
https://www.newspapers.com/article/edmonton-journal-obituary-for-mary-anne/51994834/
Perhaps this is Mary with a husband Peter on the 1931 census Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Peter Anderson 64 years. Denmark.
Mary Anderson 66 years. Ontario.
Alberta Anderson 34 years. Alberta. (This could be A O Anderson mentioned in the above obit.)
Sandra
Added FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222442934/mary-anne-anderson
Obit Peter Anderson - The Calgary Albertan
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Thu, 9 Aug 1945 Page 2
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-calgary-albertan/134434455/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/213364795/peter-anderson
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…Lisa - Details found on a pay site - Which is this or is it one already posted ?
Thanks again :)
Deb
Hi Deb,
At one time I thought I read that we weren’t supposed to mention some sites, so I try to avoid doing so. ;) It was from Anc*try, the details were from
“Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Index to Cemeteries, 1890-1987”
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Possibly a transcription error somewhere?
https://coewebapps.edmonton.ca/cemeteries/
[Apparently you have to type the name again. It removed the details when I did a copy and paste.]
I originally typed
Julius
Anders (to catch spelling variations)
Added: Eileen, I didn’t mean to imply that you made the error. Sorry if it came across that way. :-\
Lisa, it didn't come across that way at all. I had just found the entry in 1935 as OP had mentioned. :)
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Canadian 1931 was 26 June 1931.
There were three other Mary Anderson deaths in 1931 but no details when.
Pity they don't include a birth date :-\
Someone else might have discovered more info on them.
Mary Anderson Death Date 1931 Markerville, Alberta, Canada. (seems a fair distance away from Edmonton)
and
Mary Anderson - Death Date 1931 Battle River, Alberta, Canada. (seems a fair distance from Edmonton)
and
Mary Anderson - Death Date 14 Jan 1931 Irma, Alberta, Canada (seems to be a fair distance from Edmonton)
Sandra
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Looking at the passenger list for Mary Brough i 1926 - she arrived in Canada with step-father William Brown aged 42 years - widowed. Two sons of William Brown - John Brown aged 20 years and James Brown aged 15 years - presumably step-siblings. Have you traced the Brown family ?
Sandra
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Brother BROWN JOHN - mmn - BROUGH - 1906 - 428 / 11 - FALKLAND
BROWN JAMES BROUGH - mmn BROUGH - 1911 407 / 5 - AUCHTERTOOL
James Brough Brown born 1911 -
James Brough Brown - Death Date 2 Feb 1970 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Edmonton Journal
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Thu, 5 Feb 1970 Page 32
https://www.newspapers.com/article/edmonton-journal/134444161/
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
Thank you for helping :)
I looked at the Mary A Anderson too - age is too old + as you have posted marriage isn't right.
Mary Anderson 14 Jan 1931 Irma, Alberta is a 9month old baby.
The other two (Markerville + Battle River) I agree are quite a distance from Edmonton + no relevant details I think without purchasing the record.
There are a few Mary Anderson deaths ranging from her marriage in 1927 to the 1931 census but they aren't easy to confirm
I've not traced the Brown family in Canada apart from their arrival in 1926.
William Brown married Janet Watt Brough in 1904 Kennoway Fife Scotland, had John + James together + brought up Mary the illegitimate child of Janet Watt Brough.
Janet died Feb 1924 + in March the same year Mary had a daughter named Janet Watt Brough who died 9 months later - William Brown was named informant (Grandfather)
I'm not sure but I think William Brown may have died later in 1926 :-\
I'll look into that side of the family as well as Julius' relatives- thank you for the records for James!
Deb
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Looking at the passenger list for Mary Brough i 1926 - she arrived in Canada with step-father William Brown aged 42 years - widowed. Two sons of William Brown - John Brown aged 20 years and James Brown aged 15 years - presumably step-siblings. Have you traced the Brown family ?
Sandra
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In the middle of the night, I came across a Mary B Anderson who I believe turned out to be Mary Brown Anderson. I thought perhaps Brough could have somehow been mistaken for Brown so I stopped looking. I will try to find those details. I believe her death may have been in 1929, possibly a 45 minute drive from Calihoo (the details are muddled up as I was looking at several Mary Andersons).
Added: there were two records with Brown, which is why I stopped looking.
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Mary Brown Anderson
https://cemetery.canadagenweb.org/search-people/
Mary Brown Anderson, died 1929. St Aidan's Glenreagh Cemetery, Alberta. The cemetery is just north of Barrhead.
(The site may open with names already listed. Just type Mary Anderson, death 1929, Alberta. Her name will appear.)
Added: if the above is “your” marry, perhaps the Andersons lived there, family members were already interred in the cemetery, she passed away while in the area, she intentionally stayed with her family before her passing, etc.
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Possibly a transcription error somewhere?
https://coewebapps.edmonton.ca/cemeteries/
[Apparently you have to type the name again. It removed the details when I did a copy and paste.]
I originally typed
Julius
Anders (to catch spelling variations)
Added: Eileen, I didn’t mean to imply that you made the error. Sorry if it came across that way. :-\
Lisa, it didn't come across that way at all. I had just found the entry in 1935 as OP had mentioned. :)
Whew, glad to read your reply. Years ago, while emailing with a friend, we each took things the wrong way when we were discussing something, which ended our friendship. She never wanted to resume the friendship. To this day, I’m still overly worried that I come across incorrectly which is why I tend to put happy faces with my text. It’s sad how some things stick with you.
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From Anc*try,
Alberta, Canada Death Index
M Brown Anderson
Died - 4 Sep 1929
Place of Death - Glenreagh, Alberta, Canada
Registration Number - 405-310
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Hi Lisa
Well that looks closer than anything I've yet found :)
I've messaged the archives as I don't quite understand the code numbers particularly in column 7 -
'YB' = Year of Birth
'PB' = Place of Birth - Mary B Anderson has number 24
Hopefully they may be able to clarify :)
Fingers crossed!
I'm going to try any directories for that year too!
Thank you! :)
Deb
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Hi Lisa
Well that looks closer than anything I've yet found :)
I've messaged the archives as I don't quite understand the code numbers particularly in column 7 -
'YB' = Year of Birth
'PB' = Place of Birth - Mary B Anderson has number 24
Hopefully they may be able to clarify :)
Fingers crossed!
I'm going to try any directories for that year too!
Thank you! :)
Deb
I’m sorry, I’m not sure which record you are referencing. Perhaps we can figure out number 24 if you don’t hear back in a timely fashion?
A possibility for Julius to record his marital status as widowed in 1931 could be a possible separation between the couple. I’ve run across and have read about others finding individuals who claim to be widowed, only to find the spouse very much alive, living somewhat nearby.
You are very welcome but I wish we could find more details for you. :)
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Hi Lisa,
I'm referencing the Mary Brown Anderson death in 1929 Glenreagh.
The archives replied explaining the number 24 for place of birth, is Scotland.
So this record you found is looking more + more likely it may be our Mary :)
I've asked how long a digital image of a death record takes to receive (hopefully straight away!) + think I may order it :)
You've been soooo helpful + if it is her you're an absolute star! :)
Deb
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Hi Lisa,
I'm referencing the Mary Brown Anderson death in 1929 Glenreagh.
The archives replied explaining the number 24 for place of birth, is Scotland.
So this record you found is looking more + more likely it may be our Mary :)
I've asked how long a digital image of a death record takes to receive (hopefully straight away!) + think I may order it :)
You've been soooo helpful + if it is her you're an absolute star! :)
Deb
I didn’t see columns for Mary Brown Anderson, I guess I overlooked something.
Excellent! Hopefully this Scottish Mary B. Anderson is the correct lady.
Hopefully, if you decide to order the death record, they will allow you to do so (as you may know, some Canadian records are difficult to obtain, for privacy reasons).
Mmmm, I can’t take credit if it turns out to be your Mary. I was following eileenwilson’s efforts at looking at death records and if it wasn’t for Sandra mentioning the Browns, I wouldn’t have looked for Mary Brown again. So, you’ll have to cut the star status into several pieces (one piece for you, too, for giving us details and feedback). ;D
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Lisa,
After reading the order instructions I've bit the bullet + ordered the record :)
Whether it is or isn't her stars all round! ;D
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"Bit the bullet" - :-\ :-\ :-\
Edmonton Journal
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Mon, 27 May 1935 Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/article/edmonton-journal/134492238/
Sandra
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*Sandra* - Ooops! Well there's a phrase I may not be using again in a hurry ;D
Thanks for the newspaper clip - your section of the star has just gone bigger! :)
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I've just received the death reg for Mary Brown Anderson + it is our Mary :)
Many thanks to you all - great job as always !!
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Thank you for letting us know! Hopefully, prior to her young passing, Mary had many good times mixed in with the sad events that have been uncovered. How sad for everyone involved.
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Wonderful result, good spot Lisa :) Very quick response to ordering the certificate as well, amazingly quick.
Sandra
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I am related to Julius C. & Mary Anderson. Julius is my great-grandmother´s brother