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Title: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: Beechbaby on Tuesday 31 October 23 11:56 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure if my original post was "posted" or if something went wrong  so I will re post.hope this is OK.

Looking for assistance  in finding info on Renatus (Rene)  Van Laere b 1889 d 24-7-1972 Kaprijke, Belgium.   Married Martha Mussche b 1892.  Any help going backwards would be extremely appreciated.   I don't seem to be getting anywhere whatsoever on wwAncestry or a Belgium  site.
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: manukarik on Tuesday 31 October 23 12:06 GMT (UK)
No joy finding any documents but there are these Belgian family trees on the french site geneanet, here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sr7/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sr7/)
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: joger on Tuesday 31 October 23 12:07 GMT (UK)
Manukarik : you beat me
https://gw.geneanet.org/wwalgraeve?n=van+laere&oc=&p=renatus
Goes up to 1728 on the van Laere branch
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: manukarik on Tuesday 31 October 23 12:14 GMT (UK)
joger - it's normally the other way round!  :)
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: joger on Tuesday 31 October 23 12:19 GMT (UK)
https://gw.geneanet.org/aavdgk?n=mussche&oc=&p=martha

This tree has Martha's ancestors

And this one too up to 1724

Now all you have to do is check

https://gw.geneanet.org/ddeygers?n=mussche&oc=&p=martha
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: Beechbaby on Tuesday 31 October 23 13:15 GMT (UK)
Once again the Roots chat community  has done it again 😍  thank you for your info which I'm looking into.   Couldn't  have done it without your help ❤

I do have a question   do you know the cost of setting up an account  on Geneanet is as it wont let me look at everything  and says I have to set up an account contrary  to the fact it says free it doesn't  seem to be. !!!

Thank you once again
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: joger on Tuesday 31 October 23 13:25 GMT (UK)
I think it is 12.50 euros for 3 months , 50 for a year , beware to stop your Premium sub before the end or it will be automatically renewed.
 Geneanet is free,  but some infos are for Premium subs ( though there are ways of getting the info for free) . Register for free on geneanet first , and then let us know what you want to see if it is for Premium subs only.
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: manukarik on Tuesday 31 October 23 13:27 GMT (UK)
https://en.geneanet.org/genealogyblog/post/2019/01/geneanet-free-or-paid-explanations (https://en.geneanet.org/genealogyblog/post/2019/01/geneanet-free-or-paid-explanations)

Geneanet has been taken over by Ancestry so you should be able to access some info there.
Premium version of Geneanet =
€12.50 for 3 months  (auto-renews)
€50 for a year
€90 for 2 years

Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: manukarik on Tuesday 31 October 23 13:28 GMT (UK)
joger - you beat me to it this time!
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: joger on Tuesday 31 October 23 13:30 GMT (UK)
 ;)
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: Beechbaby on Tuesday 31 October 23 13:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you for pricing info  I have just taken 1 month world wide on Ancestry so will go see if I can find anything.   Thanks once again.
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: TreeSpirit on Wednesday 01 November 23 04:36 GMT (UK)
I have just taken 1 month world wide on Ancestry so will go see if I can find anything.

Have you had a look at Family Search for free BMD certificates yet?:

Some examples:

Renatus Van Laere BC  25 Apr 1890 Kaprijke -: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-LB2H-RY9?i=162 (#25)

Renatus and his extended family (grandparents, siblings) in the 1881-1890 Kaprijke Population Register: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSYT-Z9T2-R?i=527

These registers tells you about the BMD data and movements of the people at a specific address in that period:
e.g.
It tells you that #9, #10, #11, #12 are Renatus’ siblings
Father Joannes/Jan Baptiste (#4) an agricultural labourer was born on 12 Sep 1854 in “Caprycke”. He married Emma BOGAERT (#8) on 21 Nov 1883 who was born on 20 Apr 1863 in Eeclo. She came to Kaprijke in 1878.
This info helps you to find their 1883 MC: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-8B2H-T66?i=29 (#13). This MC confirms that Joannes/Jean Baptiste (#1) born abt 1800 in “Caprycke” and Marie Caroline (#2) b 1829 in St Laureyns are Renatus’ grandparents

FYI The grandparents’ 1852 marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG89-9RX1?i=25 (#10). This certificate mentions that Joannes was born on something like the “eersten Nivôse jaer tien der fransch. Republiek”. This would be 21 Dec 1801 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar)

Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: manukarik on Wednesday 01 November 23 08:37 GMT (UK)
Great find, TreeSpirit! I keep forgetting to look at FamilySearch...
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: Beechbaby on Wednesday 01 November 23 10:28 GMT (UK)
WOW 👌  fantastic thank you so much you are the best   I went on family search but none of this came up 🤨 ?....difference  between a "L" and a pro ❤
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: TreeSpirit on Wednesday 01 November 23 13:11 GMT (UK)
BTW If you'd had a good look at Renatus' father on that geneanet link (https://gw.geneanet.org/wwalgraeve?lang=en&p=joannes+baptiste&n=van+laere), you might have noticed a link to a Family Search tree: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G8SB-LFS

This tree does not seem to have the first 3 links that I'd previously given, but it does have the 1852 marriage of Renatus' grandparents as a source for these 2 individuals. And, there are a lot more sources for you to look at (although I can see that some sources are missing).

Enjoy

Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: Beechbaby on Wednesday 01 November 23 17:34 GMT (UK)
Wow😳    what else can I say   apart from Thank You 😍.  That's fantastic  I've had a look  I managed to make out names  but obviously  couldn't  read the rest (UK ) but I've taken photocopies  and my friend can do the rest 😁  once again   Thank you 🌹🌹🌹
Title: Re: Renatus (Rene) Van Laere
Post by: BelgianAncestry on Friday 17 November 23 21:21 GMT (UK)
You said that "This certificate mentions that Joannes was born on something like the “eersten Nivôse jaer tien der fransch. Republiek”. This would be 21 Dec 1801"
but that is not correct. 1 Nivôse of Year 10 is the 22th of December 1801, not the 21st. The day differs in the course of the years.