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Hello,
Can i have help finding Una Esdale please. Born - possibly August 1923
Im told her father was called James, of Scottish descent and he was in the Navy during the second world war.
This scant information is all that i have.
Thanks in advance
Noreen
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There was an Agnes Easdale born in Belfast August 1923, mmn Creen. Might be worth checking in case Una was a middle name.
U/1923/47/1007/58/139
GRONI website. https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/search/birth
Births after 27th October 1923 aren’t on-line yet (100 years rule) and so if she was born after that you can’t search on-line and would need to contact GRONI by phone to get a search done. (There will be a search fee).
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What is your connection to her? Where did you get the info re birthplace & fathers name
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There was an Agnes Easdale born in Belfast August 1923, mmn Creen. Might be worth checking in case Una was a middle name.
U/1923/47/1007/58/139
GRONI website. https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/search/birth
Here's the likely marriage for the parents of that one, the groom called James and living at that time at Clydebank:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09247/5347207.pdf
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Could this be her?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68PB-JHJX
Not her! Father was Alexander & both US citizens travelling from Londonderry.
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There was an Agnes Easdale born in Belfast August 1923, mmn Creen. Might be worth checking in case Una was a middle name.
U/1923/47/1007/58/139
GRONI website. https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/search/birth
Just a further thought on the above, the Irish 'Úna' was used for Agnes.
https://www.libraryireland.com/names/women/una-una.php
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Here's the likely marriage for the parents of that one, the groom called James and living at that time at Clydebank:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09247/5347207.pdf
Here was the Creen household in 1911 at 47 Pilot Street in Belfast, very convenient to the docks and convenient for taking in boarders too:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward__Belfast_Clifton_/Pilot_Street/131902/
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Here was the Creen household in 1911 at 47 Pilot Street in Belfast, very convenient to the docks and convenient for taking in boarders too:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward__Belfast_Clifton_/Pilot_Street/131902/
Agnes' birth registration and her parent's marriage registration:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02285/1857677.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10824/5947957.pdf
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Many thanks to all the contributors on this post.
When I get time I will follow up on the information provided.
And i got the scant information from a friend. Its her ancestors I am trying to find.
(Also Una married Lennon and lived in Derrynoose County Armagh)
Kind regards,
Noreen
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hello again,
Una Easdale was born 18th August 1923.
Elwyn Soutter & Gaffy thats probably the correct birth you mention and gave Proni link. However my account has been disabled so cant see it. Im awaitng it being re enabled
Noreen
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hello again,
Una Easdale was born 18th August 1923.
Elwyn Soutter & Gaffy thats probably the correct birth you mention and gave Proni link. However my account has been disabled so cant see it. Im awaitng it being re enabled
Noreen
I didn’t actually put the day of the month in my initial information but it was 18th August so that’s really got to be your lady.
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Many thanks Elwyn. Hopefully ill get my account re enabled soon in order to check it out.
Noreen
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Got my account reactivated and Ive found Agnes Easdale - So delighted. So thanks folks.
Can anyone find what happened to James Easdale her Dad? He transparently died when Agnes was 3years old.
Possibly while in the The Navy?
Noreen
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I noted this death in 1953. I assume it’s not your ancestor?
Esdale James of Ballymagowan Desertmartin county Londonderry retired labourer died 5 April 1953 at Mid-Ulster Hospital Magherafelt county Londonderry Probate Belfast 22 June to James A. Best fitter. Effects £217 17s.
There was also a James Easdale death in Scotland in 1926. Aged 34 and died in Old or West Kilpatrick district (Clydebank area). Sounds more promising.
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I think the death in Scotland is about right in 1926. Its the area he came from and Agnes was born in 1923 so would have been 3 years old in 1926. Ill try and find that record. Many thanks again. Much appreciated
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It’s on Scotlandspeople. GROS ref: 501/80
Mother’s maiden name SHIELDS.
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James Easdale married Margaret Shields, 1890, Old or West Kilpatrick
The Easdale family on 1911 census, Old or West Kilpatrick.
James, 48, Margaret, 47, Margaret, 22, James, 20, Barbara, 15, Charles, 12, & Elizabeth, 5
There was also a Mary, age 7 on 1901 census
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I can see from the 1920 marriage certificate that James Esdale was a sheet metal worker in Clydebank. So he probably worked in the shipyards. Harland & Wolff had shipbuilding yards in Belfast, Glasgow, Liverpool & Southampton and often shifted their skilled staff around if they were needed in one of the other yards. (If you look at the places of birth for shipyard workers in Belfast in the 1901 & 1911 Irish censuses, you’ll see hundreds born in Scotland and England. Presumably a similar study of censuses in Clydebank, Liverpool & Southampton would show loads born in Ireland).
So possibly James came to Belfast for shipyard work at some point and that’s where he met Agnes Creen.
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James' younger brother, Charles, b 1898, possibly died Mullingar Army Barracks, 1918 from flu & pneumonia. He was in the Royal Scots, 3rd Bn
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05169/4426203.pdf
Worth noting that there are 4 soldier deaths on this page all from flu.
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/663259/charles-easdale/
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How sure were you that Una's father was in the Navy in 2nd WW?