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Title: Missing Person
Post by: cally_c on Tuesday 24 October 23 15:08 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to find a birth record for Maud Lillie Bateman. She is aged 6 in the 1921 Census, living with her father, Bertie, her step-mother Hilda and two brothers and noted as being born in Nottingham.

She's a bit of a mystery as she's missing from a family photo taken in 1917; my Grandmother is included on the photo & she was adamant that she was the only girl on that side of the family; all her maternal cousins were boys.

The family did move around a lot; children were born in Aylsham, Nottingham and London; Maud's mother died in 1917 in Suffolk

thank you,
cally
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 24 October 23 15:20 BST (UK)
Presumably she's Hilda's daughter from a previous relationship. Is she the Lillie Maud Hemsley/ Maud L Pratt in the 1939 register? Born 20 August 1914.
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 24 October 23 15:27 BST (UK)
HEMSLEY, LILLE  MAUD
Mother's maiden surname: COOPER     
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 954

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: cally_c on Tuesday 24 October 23 15:53 BST (UK)
Presumably she's Hilda's daughter from a previous relationship. Is she the Lillie Maud Hemsley/ Maud L Pratt in the 1939 register? Born 20 August 1914.

Thank you, that's looking good!
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: cally_c on Tuesday 24 October 23 15:55 BST (UK)
HEMSLEY, LILLE  MAUD
Mother's maiden surname: COOPER     
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 954

Debra  :)

I don't know why I didn't think of a previous marriage, probably because she's listed as a daughter with the same surname.

Thank you
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 24 October 23 17:43 BST (UK)
first marriage
Hilda Cooper dec qtr 1913 Nottingham vol 7b pg 649 to William Helmsley
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: cally_c on Tuesday 24 October 23 20:10 BST (UK)
first marriage
Hilda Cooper dec qtr 1913 Nottingham vol 7b pg 649 to William Helmsley

thank you
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 24 October 23 21:30 BST (UK)
For info

Wm Hemsley
Rank   Lance Corporal
Death 8 Oct 1915
Service Number   12806
Corps, Regiment or Unit   Grenadier Guards

Next of Kin
Hilda Hemsley   Widow b 29 1 1887
Lilia Maud Hemsley child b 20 8 1914
Residence Place   New Basford Nottingham
UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/731658/william-hemsley/

Lille Maud Hemsley age 69 b 20 Aug 1914
Registration May 1984 Nottingham Volume   8 Page   1081
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222604785/lille-maud-hemsley
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: Dizzifish on Wednesday 25 October 23 09:50 BST (UK)
Hello... :)

From what has already been found this link may help further confirm this is your family.

https://apps.gedling.gov.uk/bacas/search.aspx

If you choose Redhill from the dropdown list and put in grave number 2525 there are four burials.
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 25 October 23 11:38 BST (UK)
Hello... :)

From what has already been found this link may help further confirm this is your family.

https://apps.gedling.gov.uk/bacas/search.aspx

If you choose Redhill from the dropdown list and put in grave number 2525 there are four burials.

That's a good find Dizzifish - I did notice that her mother Hilda Bateman's grave number was the same but did wonder why I couldn't find a death for Lille's husband John  (Helmsley/Pratt marriage registered Dec 1936 Nottingham)

I think Hilda Cooper's mother is Ellen Maud Allsop married Tom Cooper 1881
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: cally_c on Monday 30 October 23 15:26 GMT (UK)
For info

Wm Hemsley
Rank   Lance Corporal
Death 8 Oct 1915
Service Number   12806
Corps, Regiment or Unit   Grenadier Guards

Next of Kin
Hilda Hemsley   Widow b 29 1 1887
Lilia Maud Hemsley child b 20 8 1914
Residence Place   New Basford Nottingham
UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/731658/william-hemsley/

Lille Maud Hemsley age 69 b 20 Aug 1914
Registration May 1984 Nottingham Volume   8 Page   1081
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222604785/lille-maud-hemsley

Thank you, that's so interesting
Title: Re: Missing Person
Post by: cally_c on Monday 30 October 23 15:28 GMT (UK)
Hello... :)

From what has already been found this link may help further confirm this is your family.

https://apps.gedling.gov.uk/bacas/search.aspx

If you choose Redhill from the dropdown list and put in grave number 2525 there are four burials.

Thank you