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Title: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: pb_devon on Monday 23 October 23 08:41 BST (UK)
A family member has recently moved into a house in Leicestershire. In the garden they found this stone, lying loose in the undergrowth. The house dates from 1911, but my assumption is that it has been bought here more recently and there is no historical connection.
It has a wheatsheaf at the top, the initials EB, and the date 1754.
Surely it’s not a gravestone. Any ideas what it might commemorate? A boundary marker?
Thanks in advance of your answers.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 23 October 23 10:03 BST (UK)
Firstly I would look at what it is made from to determine if it has any age (or not). Is it cast or carved? Difficult to tell from the photo.

Looking at the broken bit at the top, it looks like cement so it might be new, but I really have no idea.

What size is it?

It could be a modern reproduction of an old stone. I have something similar - a souvenier from Salem (USA), but mine is tiny.

I’m sure there will be a rootschatter able to cast an expert eye over it.



Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: IMBER on Monday 23 October 23 13:29 BST (UK)
Parish boundaries were very often marked by boundary stones. These sometimes bore the date they were erected.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: Stanwix England on Monday 23 October 23 13:52 BST (UK)
I think it could be a gravestone or at least a replica of a grave stone.

I believe that the wheatsheaf was a common motif on gravestones. I've read that it was meant to represent a long life or prosperity and also is a sort of memento mori - we are all 'harvested' by the Lord eventually, sort of thing.

It could have been that someone moved it to reuse the stone, perhaps as a paving stone. Or if it's a fake, maybe it was someone's halloween decoration or something?
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: arthurk on Monday 23 October 23 14:20 BST (UK)
Sometimes graves have a footstone as well as a headstone. The ones I've seen were a bit plainer than this, but typically they would have the initials and the year, corresponding to the fuller inscription on the headstone.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Monday 23 October 23 14:32 BST (UK)
Stone query ??

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: pb_devon on Monday 23 October 23 15:07 BST (UK)
Firstly I would look at what it is made from to determine if it has any age (or not). Is it cast or carved? Difficult to tell from the photo.

Looking at the broken bit at the top, it looks like cement so it might be new, but I really have no idea.

What size is it?

It could be a modern reproduction of an old stone. I have something similar - a souvenier from Salem (USA), but mine is tiny.

I’m sure there will be a rootschatter able to cast an expert eye over it.

Sorry should have said it’s about 3ft high and made of slate.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: pb_devon on Monday 23 October 23 15:11 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for suggestions/ideas…all very plausible!

I’m currently favouring a (parish?) boundary….perhaps “East B?”

Without knowing any provenance it’s all guesswork.

Appreciate your input.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: Stanwix England on Monday 23 October 23 17:06 BST (UK)
When looking online, I noticed that the symbol of the parish of Countesthorpe seems to be a sheaf of wheat.

That's in Leicestershire, I believe. It wouldn't explain what the EB stands for though, perhaps East Boundary?
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: arthurk on Monday 23 October 23 17:15 BST (UK)
According to A Vision of Britain, Countesthorpe wasn't a parish in its own right until 1866. Before that it was a chapelry in the parish of Blaby.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: Stanwix England on Monday 23 October 23 17:26 BST (UK)
Ah well, that rules that theory out.
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: JenB on Monday 23 October 23 17:29 BST (UK)
A wheatsheaf was a fairly commonly used symbol on gravestones.
https://shadowsflyaway.blog/2017/08/21/symbol-of-the-month-the-wheatsheaf/

Added: apologies, I see this has already been mentioned.

Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 23 October 23 23:32 BST (UK)
Three feet tall and made of slate? Well, that is unlikley to fit with my “souvenir” theory. :) :)

Has your family member considered trying to contact the previous owner of the house in case they can help?
Title: Re: What is this stone commemorating?
Post by: pb_devon on Tuesday 24 October 23 07:44 BST (UK)

Has your family member considered trying to contact the previous owner of the house in case they can help?

Sadly deceased, plus it wasn’t a great sale/purchase experience as a result.

Great idea though!