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Title: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: Greenvale on Friday 20 October 23 20:20 BST (UK)
Would anyone know if the name Thomas would be recorded as Thaddeus in Irish Catholic parish registers?
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: heywood on Friday 20 October 23 20:40 BST (UK)
I doubt it. Was the child known as Thomas later?
Have you got a link to the baptism?
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: heywood on Friday 20 October 23 20:43 BST (UK)
The Irish for Timothy is Tadgh - perhaps Thaddeus was used as the Latin version.
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: Greenvale on Friday 20 October 23 21:04 BST (UK)
I doubt it. Was the child known as Thomas later?
Have you got a link to the baptism?
Thomas Cunningham born in Roscommon 1823. (UK census 1871)
There is a baptism record for a Thaddeus Cunningham in Boyle, Roscommon dated 23/07/1823.
Not knowing his exact place of birth I was wondering if this could be the same person
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: shanreagh on Saturday 21 October 23 07:47 BST (UK)
Thomas when it is latinised in Ireland, that I have seen is Tomas or Thoma. Thaddeus/Thady are some times used to mean Timothy. 

I would sense that Thoma/Tomas/Thaddeus/Timothy would all be a bit unusual in England and he may have used Thomas to make it simpler. 
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: Watson on Saturday 21 October 23 07:59 BST (UK)
The Record Interpreter gives Thadeus as the Latin equivalent of Thady.
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: dublin1850 on Saturday 21 October 23 08:37 BST (UK)
Thaddeus is for Tadgh, often anglicised as Timothy, Teague or Thady.
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: shanreagh on Saturday 21 October 23 08:48 BST (UK)
Thaddeus is for Tadgh, often anglicised as Timothy, Teague or Thady.

That is my understanding too.....
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: Greenvale on Saturday 21 October 23 09:43 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone for that. Looks like they're not the same person.
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: shanreagh on Saturday 21 October 23 23:32 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone for that. Looks like they're not the same person.

I actually would not dismiss this person from your tree.  Just because the names do not correlate one to one does not mean that they are not related to you.  As I said he may have wanted to make it simple for a new life in England.  Having a 'difficult' and Irish name in those days may have meant he chose a less awkward name. 
Title: Re: Baptismal names in Latin
Post by: Rena on Sunday 22 October 23 00:15 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone for that. Looks like they're not the same person.

I actually would not dismiss this person from your tree.  Just because the names do not correlate one to one does not mean that they are not related to you.  As I said he may have wanted to make it simple for a new life in England.  Having a 'difficult' and Irish name in those days may have meant he chose a less awkward name.

England's official religion is Church of England, Scotland's religion is Presbyterian and Wales has the "Baptist church". . 

Throughout history you'll find that at various times the Catholics had to hide their religion and at other times the Protestants had to hide their religion.

My OHs ancestry has one Irish couple in it who sailed to the British mainland to find work but I discovered the bread winner had changed his Irish Catholic given name to a less obvious one of "Denis"