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Hi All
I am trying to find information regarding my Grandfather who was Henry James Wright who was born in Lambeth, London. He was married to Elizabeth Rose Wade with whom he had a sone Alfred Christopher Wright ( b1887 ) He later had a child ( Albert Edward Wright my Dad born in 1922) with Hannah Ester Hyam who was born in 1878.
I have been a member on Ancestry for some years and am not happy that the suggestions are correct as the dates dont tally with my Grandfathers death. As I have found out after spending a lot of time following suggestions which I now believe are information entered in error by other members. Unless I can confirm the correct information then the rest of this line incorrect.
As my family name is Wright which is so common it makes and these people were ordinary working people it makes it really hard to find this information. please advise me how I can possible find the answer to my Fathers descendants.
Thanks in anticipation
Lucinda
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Hello
When and where did Henry and Elizabeth marry? I can't find the marriage or the birth of Alfred Christopher.
If Elizabeth Rose was born in 1871 in Southwark she was extremely young when she had Alfred. Were there any more children? What happened to Elizabeth?
Bev
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Hello
Yes, sorry I made a mistake Alfred was born in 1897 . (I knew as soon as I posted )
Apparently they were married 1891. They also had a daughter Florence Elizabeth Wright 1892- 1972.
I don't know what happened to Elizabeth as Henry James moved on to Hannah Ester Hyam who he later married in 1941. Elizabeth died in 1943 according to records so I am unsure if they divorced or there was a mistake in these dates
Thank you for your interest
Lucinda
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Yes married March 1/4 1891 St. Saviour registration district
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1901 entry for the family in Lambeth:
Henry J Wright 33 b. Lambeth
Elizabeth Wright 29 b. Southwark
Florence E Wright 8 b. Southwark
Alfred C Wright 3 b. Southwark
Monica
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Thank you Monica,
This confirms what I have already found on Ancestry. The problem is I cant get any further back. His father was also call Henry James Wright and was a printer (compositor) which I found on the marriage certificate.
Lucinda
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Do you know who the James H Wright (b. 1882) is who shows in the household with Henry and Hannah? Another son?
Added: A birth year of 1882 would make this James too old to be a son to Henry who looks to have been born at the end of 1867.
This looks a likely birth for the James in the household in 1939:
WRIGHT, JAMES HENRY Mother's maiden name CARTER
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 417
Monica
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From his birth date on the 1939 Register (you have this?), this looks the best fit for a birth:
WRIGHT, HENRY Mother's Maiden name HOLMAN
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 405
Needs further research.
Have you not been able to find Henry in an earlier census before his marriage to Elizabeth Wade?
Monica
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Hello Monica,
Thanks for the info
I have found several people called Henry Wright living in the area who could be family. With common names like Henry and Wright I have been making things fit which is why I'm hoping find a more accurate way forward.
I have not come across the name Holman before this is an interesting new lead.
Thanks
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I think there is a more fitting birth registration for Henry James. He gave his birth date as 22 December 1867. Not surprisingly, more that likely that the birth registration would have taken place in the New Year 1868.
There is this birth registration on the GRO:
WRIGHT, HENRY JAMES Mother's Maiden name CARTER
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in ST GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 178
Good possibility that the James Henry, with mother showing as Carter on his 1882 birth reg, and Henry James are siblings?
Monica
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There are two marriages showing for a Henry Wright and bride CARTER in London in the right time frame:
Margaret Carter - marriage in Lambeth in 3rd Qrt 1864
Susan Carter - marriage in Bermondsey in 2nd Qrt 1866
Hopefully census entries will help further.
Monica
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I typed all this up, but Monica got there first!
1871, Lambeth
71 Walnut Tree Walk
Henry Wrigh Head Mar 27 Printer Machine ? born Surrey Walworth
Margaret Wrigh Head Wife 28 Machine ? Middlesex Westminster
Henry Wrigh Son 3 Surrey Southwark
Margaret Wrigh Dau 10 mo Surrey Southwark
WRIGHT, HENRY JAMES
Mother's Maiden Surname: CARTER
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in ST GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 178
WRIGHT, MARGARET ANN
Mother's Maiden Surname: CARTER
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 339
Marriage, 25 July 1864, Lambeth
Henry Wright, Bachelor, Printer, father James Wright, Printer
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Margaret Carter, Spinster, father Henry Carter (decd)
Both of full age, residence Paradise Street
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Hi Jon, thankyou so much
You have both been brilliant!
Lucinda
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Well done, Jon ;) Only just found the 1864 marriage ::)
Monica
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Nice that we all agree it looks very promising.
That missing "t" in 1871 may have caused the problem in finding them, it does say Wrigh!
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hi Jon
Brilliant help from you both!
Lx
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From that 1871 census entry you found, Jon, Henry Snr was showing as born in Walworth c. 1844. There is this possible entry in 1851 in Lambeth:
James Wright 39 b. Middlesex
Mary Ann Wright 30 b. Wye, Essex
Henry Wright 7 b. Walworth, Surrey
James's occupation is looking here like Compositor? Not sure on that.
Monica
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Thank you
All this helps a lot .Ive also changed his DOB to 22 Dec 1867 as you suggested
Lx