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Title: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Friday 13 October 23 18:03 BST (UK)
I have been trying to find Susan/Susannah Ede nee Taylor in the 1861 Census probably Kingston area for many years.  Her DOB is 1787 Esher according to the 1851 Census.  There are two possible burials 1863 and 1872 so in theory she should be somewhere in the 1861!  Have  drawn a blank for a marriage after the death of her husband John.  I haven't been able to find a baptism for her in Esher either.  Any ideas anyone?
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: Dundee on Friday 13 October 23 19:21 BST (UK)
Her son William and his family are missing as well so they were probably all in the part of Esher that has been lost.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3098492

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Friday 13 October 23 19:34 BST (UK)
That would explain it. Thanks
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: Comberton on Friday 13 October 23 19:38 BST (UK)
In case it helps,
The 1863 death has  burial at Esher, the 1872 at Kingston.
www.findagrave.com/memorial/222274388/susan-ede
Images on Ancestry and FindMyPast, I only have free account at the moment.
1871 census
Kingston St Mary
Susannah Eade  81 b 1790  Surrey
Henry Myford 43
Susannah Myford 42
Louisa Myford 19   mmn Eade
1861 Myfords
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MP-3HSH
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 08:24 BST (UK)
Thank you for that it is very helpful.  I think the 1863 burial must be the right one.  There are quite a few Susannah Eades all married to John Edes/Eades so having to rule out each one which is not an easy task!
Thanks 
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 14 October 23 08:35 BST (UK)
Did you know you can get a digital image of the death registration to download immediately for £2.50? From the GRO site, just click on the circle next to the name for the options.

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 08:41 BST (UK)
Thanks Comberton I did know about them but unfortunately they don't have the digital for either 1863 or the 1872 only the pdf. I might splash out on the 1863 pdf now but not sure that it will give me the info I need which is trying to find her mother and father.
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 14 October 23 08:51 BST (UK)
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I don't know why it is listed twice.

Hopefully it would say widow of John and his occupation, also the informant information may be helpful. Possibly the address she died at.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 08:58 BST (UK)
Oh that's interesting they didn't have the digital one yesterday when I tried. Thanks I will splash out!!
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 09:14 BST (UK)
I tried to get the digital image but once I  selected that option then on the next page it tells you a digital image is not available. 
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 14 October 23 10:15 BST (UK)
Sorry to hear that. I tried a couple of other 1863 deaths and they were okay so it might be this particular image.
Did any of her grandchildren have the surname Hooker and did any of her family live in Thames Ditton? Just an idea at the moment.
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 14 October 23 10:44 BST (UK)
Quote from: Comberton on Saturday 14 October 23 10:15 BST (UK)
I tried a couple of other 1863 deaths and they were okay so it might be this particular image.

All the other names on 2a 148 in June 1863. Indexed twice by GRO, and digital images not available.
Probably the whole of Kingston RD deaths in June 1863.
In fact it looks like the whole of volume 2a deaths in that quarter may not be available as instant digital images.
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 11:09 BST (UK)
johnw65 thanks for the info on the June 1863 digital images.

Comberton John and Susannah's daughter Sylvestra Rossam nee Ede was in Thames Ditton but most of the family seem to be in Esher.

There is a Hooker connection if I have the right Ede family, Mary Ede daughter of William Ede's (brother of my John Ede) married John Hooker 12th July 1851 Long Ditton both of Tolworth
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 11:21 BST (UK)
Comberton The 1863 burial of Susan Ede says her abode is Thames Ditton
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 14 October 23 11:26 BST (UK)
Maybe she had been staying with the Hooker family in 1863?
1861
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MP-32B2

or

www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MP-3GDT
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 14 October 23 12:01 BST (UK)
1863 Burial on FreeREG has Susan Ede age 75 abode Esher.
Title: Re: Lost G.G.G.Grandmother Susan Ede
Post by: anne77 on Saturday 14 October 23 13:33 BST (UK)
Trish1120  Thanks I think that is the right one and have order a pdf copy.

Comberton The Ann Ede staying with the Hooker family would be Susan's sister-in-law.

Thanks for everyone's help I have still quite a puzzle but at least I know now why I couldn't find her in the 1861 and have been given enough confidence to order the 1863 death certificate.