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Hello,
I am a descendant of Alice Linskay/Linsky/Linskey/Lynsky etc. As you can see there are many variations of the spelling. Many say she was born in Kelso NSW. Her death certificate as Alice Smith states she was born in Limerick Ireland. She died in 1880 age stated as 70. She first married William Paton/Payton/Paten etc. I can't find a death for William but she married John Smith in 1852. She had five children with William Paton. Any assistance would be so much appreciated,
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Any idea where the 5 children with William Paton were born? ie what country.
Is there a record of her travelling to Australia :-\
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I see she married William Paten in Kelso New South Wales in 1842 her name Alice Linskay
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If Alice's age at death is correct, she was born about 1810. Unfortunately, recorded baptisms in Ireland become a bit thin on the ground before 1830.
The only Linskay (or variant) I can see at the moment - baptised around 1810 in Limerick, was a William Lynsky baptised 10 Dec 1815 in Mahoonagh/Castlemahon. Parents - Patrick Lynsky and Mary Costello.
It doesn't help much I'm afraid - maybe one of her sons was named Patrick? Mary is a rather common name to be evidence, if she named a daughter, Mary.
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I don't have evidence of Alice Linskay coming to Australia. Many have her born in Kelso 1822 but not so. I am also going by her age so if correct she was born 1810.
Alice and William Paton had 1 son Thomas and 4 daughters Margaret, Annie, Elizabeth and Rosanna.
All the children were born here with many variations to the name. They were born around the Bathurst area. I think Kelso, Carcoar and Bathurst.
I was very fortunate to find her death on Family Search only because it was documented that Alice Smith had a father Linsky.
I can't find her as a convict although some Linsky and variants are convicts.
Thank you so much everyone for comments and assistance.
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Welcome to RootsChat Cherobanne,
I can see that her place of birth is Ireland on the death certificate, this information was provided by her son-in-law. Do you have any other evidence indicating where she was born? Have you been able to obtain either of the marriage certificates, which will have information provided herself. Even if this information is not on the actual transcription provided by the NSW BDM, there are ways of discovering more info through parish records. See this thread written by majm:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=546609.0
Modified to add:
Apologies, I see that you have the marriage certificate to William PATON, however, as indicated above, there is possibly more information to be found. :)
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I don't have any other evidence of where Alice was born. According to BDM NSW, she married John Smith in 1852 in Carcoar NSW. I will look at the thread, thank you.
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Doesn't really help much, but searching the NSW BDM doesn't bring up any births or deaths for a name like LINSKAY (I tried various wildcards, there are a few LINSLEYs.) However, there is also a Sarah LINSKEY married Patrick KELLY in 1841 (area code LR which is St Francis, Melbourne (Roman Catholic). Might be worth following up to see if she is related?
I think this would be some evidence that Alice was not born in NSW, with no other family members around the time. :-\
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Both marriages and the children's births were before civil registration started so the transcription is from the church records and that is all you will find.
If she was born around 1810 that makes her quite old to be marrying for the first time and I notice that her marital status is not given on the 1842 marriage.
Do you have any of the children's marriage certs to confirm her maiden surname, especially the eldest daughter?
Debra :)
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There is this marriage in 1837.
1412/1837 V18371412 21
LYNSKEY, THOMAS
DANHAR, ALICE
CA (Sydney, St Phillips)
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/family-history-search/early-church-and-district-codes
An inquest was held at Bathurst in 1842 for a Thomas LINSKEY who died from natural causes.
Debra :)
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Thank you so much for all the effort folk are going too to help me, it is so much appreciated.
I don't have any of the children's marriage certificates. I did look for some information on deaths but no luck there either. It is interesting that she would have been 32 when marrying if her death age is 70.
Yes so many variations of the spelling of surname. That Victorian marriage looks interesting
Interesting regarding Thomas Linskey as the only son of Alice born in 1845 was Thomas so a good lead thank you. They did live around the Bathurst area.
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Hi Dundee,
Just wondering where you saw the inquest for Thomas Linskey? There is a convict of the same name so maybe Alice was married to him in Ireland and came to NSW either on the same ship or on another ship.
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The registers of coroner's inquests is on Ancestry. The marriage was in Sydney in 1837.
It is likely that Thomas was the one who arrived in 1828 but he was free by 1837 so there are no marriage permission documents which would have given more information about this Alice's origins.
Debra :)
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Thank you so much. I will look on ancestry again.
Cher :)
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Well done finding that 1837 marriage Debra, not sure how I missed it last night. :-[
Both marriages and the children's births were before civil registration started so the transcription is from the church records and that is all you will find.
However, as JM says on the thread about missing info - often further information such as marital status, parents' names etc were recorded on the parish register and not on the transcription sent to the NSW BDM. Finding the actual register is the tricky part, though not impossible.
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There are a few mentions on trove of Thomas LYNSKEY/LINSKEY. Arrived 1828 on the Marquis of Huntly, 24, from County Mayo. Obtained Certificate of Freedom in 1834, and seems to have been a Police Constable after that.
https://trove.nla.gov.au
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However, as JM says on the thread about missing info - often further information such as marital status, parents' names etc were recorded on the parish register and not on the transcription sent to the NSW BDM. Finding the actual register is the tricky part, though not impossible.
That is only after civil registration started. The transcriptions before 1856 are directly from the church registers, after 1856 they are from the returns sent to the Registry.
Debra :)
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On Alice Smith's (Linskay) death is state (Father Linsky). I have a feeling that as Alice Danaher not Danhar she married Thomas Linskey in 1837. It may have never been revealed that she married Thomas Linskey and perhaps her family always thought she was Alice Linskay before her marriage to William Paton. It is a little suspicious that Thomas Linskey died around 1842 and Alice Linskay married William Paton in 1842. I can't find a death for William Paton, I wonder if his death was also little suspicious.
I think I am getting ahead of myself but love the detective work. Thank you all so much