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Title: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Monday 18 September 23 16:07 BST (UK)
Hi👋
Wondering if anyone has Nathan or Margaret in their tree
Born in Stapleton and yes both had  Kennedy surname prior to their marriage

Margaret was my 4th Great Aunt and her Husband Nathan was my 2nd cousin 5x removed

Have parents but would appreciate any specific data either for Margaret, Nathan or their children William and David

May have had more children but this is all I have on file

Original Kennedy Ancestors born in Haltwhistle then were listed as  ‘incomers’ to the district that the family settled in and where many resided for generations

Many thanks in advance of any replies
Appreciate anything whatsoever which may be connected to my Ancestry

Edith Kennedy
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: amondg on Monday 18 September 23 16:34 BST (UK)
William was bap. 20 August 1815 the same day they married - mother Margaret no father listed

could be assumed Nathan was the father.
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 19 September 23 03:37 BST (UK)
You possibly have this already - they were married 20 Aug 1815 at St Mary Stapleton. Witnesses were Hugh and Ann KENNEDY.
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 19 September 23 07:40 BST (UK)
1841 census

David age 20 lodger  Ag. Lab.

William age 25  also an Ag. Lab.  Askerton (Abbey Lanercost)
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Tuesday 19 September 23 08:32 BST (UK)
Hi and thanks for that information

Did have marriage data as well as parents for both Nathan and Margaret
Have extensive family data for Kennedy - Cumberland Branch - but cannot source death data or anything on the children


Many thanks

Edith K
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Wednesday 20 September 23 08:44 BST (UK)
Hello again

Have Nathan’s Parent William Kennedy and Mary Heward
Hugh Kennedy was brother of Nathan (witness at Marriage to Margaret)

Margaret’s parents were David Kennedy and Ann Gillespie

Not sure who Ann Kennedy links to but have several in my tree
David Kennedy did have a sister named Ann

Anything at all on this specific branch would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks

Edith K
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: 10KEN on Monday 25 September 23 15:00 BST (UK)
Hi Edith,
          Perhaps you could get me through my brick wall,Nancy Tweddle married William Kennedy
    14/5/1803 at Bewcastle , I cannot find any info on Nancy , have you ideas .
        10ken.


Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 25 September 23 15:30 BST (UK)
Does she appear on any census record?
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: 10KEN on Monday 25 September 23 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi Milliepede,
                   I think she died before 1841.
                 10ken.
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Friday 29 September 23 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi
Sorry just saw note for data on Nancy Tweddle

I have hundreds of individuals and many Tweddle in tree but not Nancy
Have several William Kennedy listed
Do you have his Father or Mother?

Sorry for delay in responding

Edith
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Friday 29 September 23 15:05 BST (UK)
Did a quick check in my data regarding William Kennedy and have a William married to Mary Tweddle (Mally)
They married in 1809 (10 June)

Mary was the daughter of a Kennedy also
Mum Susannah Potts Kennedy and Father Joseph Tweddle (also shown as Tweedale)
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Friday 29 September 23 15:09 BST (UK)
List of individuals linked to William Kennedy spouse of Mary Tweedle

Edith
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: 10KEN on Sunday 01 October 23 11:21 BST (UK)
 Thank you folks for your input.
       I still have the brick wall,
    What was her age,
     Where was she born.
           10ken.
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Tuesday 03 October 23 11:50 BST (UK)
Hi again

Been checking Kennedy data and after having William Kennedy son of Simon Kennedy and Jane Forester as the spouse of Mary (Mally) Tweddle for many years  I discovered yet another William Kennedy missed from original list of children for David Kennedy brother of Simon
David married Ann Gillespie/Gillespy

Noticed when checking data even though birth years are different  for the two William Kennedy individuals some Ancestry researchers have added William son of David as being married to Mary Tweddle

On this basis and the fact the marriage date surfaced for a Nancy Tweddle  I wondered if anyone had any positive data to clarify which William it was who married Mary Tweddle

William son of David born circa 1787 - Baptism 2 May 1787
William son of Simon born circa 1779 - Baptism 31 March 1779

It is possible that one of these William’s married Nancy
I think so due to birth year and marriage data

Could William 1779 been spouse of Nancy!

Confusion does not cover it



Any info greatly appreciated


Thanks in advance

Edith
 
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: 10KEN on Wednesday 04 October 23 12:08 BST (UK)
 Hi Edith,
            William Kennedy b 13/7/1755 at Bewcastle d Scotby 1838.
            10ken.
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 04 October 23 13:04 BST (UK)
You may also have to look for a ANN/E Tweddle

One of my GG Grandmothers was known as both Ann and Nancy.


If my theory is correct;
ANN Kennedy buried 26 Oct 1836 Stapleton, Wife of WILLIAM
(F/S.Org)

As to the 1838 Death you have;

KENNEDY, WILLIAM age 87 
GRO Reference: 1838  J Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 25  Page 31

So born c 1751.
I bit old I think to marry 1803?

Trish :)



Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Wednesday 04 October 23 18:59 BST (UK)
Hello
That is interesting
Have an Ann Tweddle married to Leonard Kennedy

Not came acrss Ann married to William so will research asap

But dates are much later than the William we are looking at

Marriage was 1803 between William and Nancy i am trying to link into ancestry line

Will have to follow up on your informarion

Many thanks 👍🏻


Edith


Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: 10KEN on Saturday 07 October 23 13:20 BST (UK)
 Hi trish ,
          Yes,i had thought Nancy may have used a different name but was'nt sure if it was possible.
  Your comment about age, Nancy was wife number 3.
  You maybe right about the death in Stapelton is this a Town or Parish.
   Thanks 10ken.
         
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Saturday 07 October 23 18:17 BST (UK)
Interesting comment about wife number 3

Have you any further info regarding the other two marriages?


Edith

Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: 10KEN on Sunday 08 October 23 14:23 BST (UK)
 Hi Edith,
             William M jane Davison 1785 2 children
                         M jane Willson  1795  4children
                         M Nancy Tweddle 1803 1 child
                         10ken.
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: tkgafs on Wednesday 11 October 23 20:09 BST (UK)
what are the names and baptism dates and places of all the children from the 3 marriages

could it be a 2nd marriage for Nancy Tweddle (ie tweddle might not be her maiden name)


Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: tkgafs on Wednesday 11 October 23 20:57 BST (UK)
This might point to William Kennedy being born about 1755 with a father Alexander

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&q.birthLikeDate.from=1750&q.birthLikeDate.to=1760&q.birthLikePlace=St%20Cuthbert%27s%20Church%2C%20Bewcastle%2C%20Cumberland%2C%20England&q.fatherGivenName=alexander&q.givenName=William&q.surname=Kennedy&c.collectionId=on&f.collectionId=3154704 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&q.birthLikeDate.from=1750&q.birthLikeDate.to=1760&q.birthLikePlace=St%20Cuthbert%27s%20Church%2C%20Bewcastle%2C%20Cumberland%2C%20England&q.fatherGivenName=alexander&q.givenName=William&q.surname=Kennedy&c.collectionId=on&f.collectionId=3154704)


Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Thursday 12 October 23 08:57 BST (UK)
Thanks and you may be 100% correct as I looked at all the data connected to William Kennedy and his three marriages plus his children which included Alexander born 1801  and the name Alexander Kennedy is not one that is repeated in my Stapleton line of Kennedy Ancestors  although I do have Alexander Kennedy born 1885 who is a third cousin and Hugh Alexander Kennedy his son a 4th cousin

IGI website has a lot of data on Kennedy individuals but cannot source anything that connects William with spouses  Jane Davison Jane Wilson and Nellie Tweddle to my direct line

All information is very helpful

Many Thanks

Edith A
Title: Re: Nathan Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy
Post by: EdithKennedy21 on Thursday 12 October 23 09:03 BST (UK)
Correction re last post on William being son of Alexander Kennedy

Should have wrote NANCY Tweddle and not Nellie as being third spouse


Sorry!