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Title: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: Kelger123 on Thursday 14 September 23 22:23 BST (UK)
Can anyone decipher the handwritten note attached.

Thanks
Gerry
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: goldie61 on Thursday 14 September 23 22:34 BST (UK)
Very hard to read as you have zoomed in on this section which has pixalted it, but possibly:
'was married to Robert Harrison(?)
in protestant(?) church Larne (?) by Father
Mcludden on 29th Nov 1913.

This was her second marriage
her former husband [    ]
died [    ]  [   ]'

It would have been helpful to know where the marriage took place.
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: GR2 on Thursday 14 September 23 22:36 BST (UK)
was married to Robert Ha[     ]on
in parochial church [Larne?] by Father
Mc[        ] on 2[9 or 4?]th Nov 191[?]
This was her second marriage
her former husband [who?]
died, being [Lee?]
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 14 September 23 22:39 BST (UK)
Found the marriage
Mary Lee nee Duff to Robert Haveron
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09896/5595661.pdf
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: goldie61 on Thursday 14 September 23 22:41 BST (UK)
Quote from: Sinann on Thursday 14 September 23 22:39 BST (UK)
Found the marriage
Mary Lee nee Duff to Robert Haveron
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09896/5595661.pdf

Good find Sinann.
That clears up quite a lot of it!
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: Kelger123 on Thursday 14 September 23 23:06 BST (UK)
Wow, it took you guys about 20 minutes, what kept you?  Seriously, I am impressed with you folks, a job well done.

Thank You
Gerry
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 14 September 23 23:06 BST (UK)
It looks like she was married to Bryan Lee in 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10284/5743124.pdf
He died 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05494/4538835.pdf
The same year daughter Margaret was born
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01643/1656317.pdf
And they were still in Westmeath in 1911

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Faughalstown/Faughalstown/879607/

If it is the correct woman when did she move to Antrim!

Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: shanreagh on Thursday 14 September 23 23:17 BST (UK)
It is always better to include a link and a snip of the part you cannot read at normal magnification. 

When the entry is looked at, with normal magnification the writing is much clearer and easier to decipher than some we have been asked to look at which look like a spider has dipped itself in ink and walked over the page! 

We have found & attached a normal marriage certificate and it has no handwritten note or do you mean the piece at the left hand side of the entry?

Or have we got the correct entry? 

29/11/1913 at Roman Catholic Church Larne by Randal MacCr?udden  (parish priest)
Robert Haveron, full age, widower, labourer, Main st Larne Patrick haveron Farmer
Mary Lee formerly Duff, full age, widow, servant, Main st Larne John Duff farmer
Witnesses:
Samuel Hefferon (This surname often has a 'a' instead of the 'o'?
Mary Anderson

This may be a daughter Elizabeth Jane Haveron
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01259/1522835.pdf

 
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: shanreagh on Thursday 14 September 23 23:32 BST (UK)
Quote from: Sinann on Thursday 14 September 23 23:06 BST (UK)
It looks like she was married to Bryan Lee in 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10284/5743124.pdf
He died 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05494/4538835.pdf
The same year daughter Margaret was born
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01643/1656317.pdf
And they were still in Westmeath in 1911

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Faughalstown/Faughalstown/879607/

If it is the correct woman when did she move to Antrim!

She is entered as a servant in the register so may be moving with a large household (in many households it was easier to have children with you if the job came with a cottage etc.) Or she may have met Robert  and moved with him to Larne. 

Bernard Lee
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01782/1700189.pdf

ETA Mary Lee
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01848/1720520.pdf

This may be the death of the father of Mary Duff/Lee/Haveron - John Duff

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05726/4615854.pdf

He is not shown as deceased on her marriage record but in some registers this was not done.  He has no occupation entered, just a - dash. 

1901 census for John Duff In Co Westmeath
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Faughalstown/Faughalstown/1776792/

or

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Faughalstown/Faughalstown/1776794/
Title: Re: Notes on May Duff's Baptismal registration
Post by: Kelger123 on Friday 22 September 23 21:21 BST (UK)
Sorry guys,
I have just seen your messages now.  I can confirm that all the information you gathered is correct.  I do not know the circumstances of her moving to Larne, except for the fact she got married there.
Thank you all for your efforts,
Gerry