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Title: Searching male line
Post by: COMEONFRANK on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:25 BST (UK)
Hello all

I have a marriage certificate for Joseph Worthington and Emmie Holland in the County of Lancaster in June 1937 , It says his Fathers name is also Joseph Worthington . Can anyone suggest how I can trace back the correct male line as I have no other information on the family .
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:32 BST (UK)
What was his father's occupation?

The first step is to search for Joseph and Emmie on the 1939 register, which provides their birth dates. I'm not sure how much information I am allowed to give you for copyright reasons, but I think it would be okay to say that Joseph was born on the 23rd February 1901.

Queenie  :)

EDIT: The 1 in 1901 is a little smudged.

SECOND EDIT: As others have established, it was a 7.
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:46 BST (UK)
I wonder if it is 1907?
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: COMEONFRANK on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply , I am not sure what the fathers profession is,  as its really difficult to read on the certificate
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:50 BST (UK)
A couple of possible births for 1901

WORTHINGTON, JOSEPH       ELLERTON 
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in WOLSTANTON  Volume 06B  Page 131

WORTHINGTON, JOSEPH       SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 216

The only birth that could fit for 1907 is this one:-

WORTHINGTON, JOSEPH  CHARLES     SYKES 
GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD  Volume 07B  Page 775

I'm more inclined to think it is one of the 1901 ones.
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:52 BST (UK)
Can you post a snippet of the occupation so we can have a look for you?
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 13 September 23 20:57 BST (UK)
There are only two 1901 census records and of those two the one living in Wortley is the more likely.  Joseph Jnr has a birth year of 1901 and the other has a birth year of 1900.

Joseph Snr, Wortley, has an occupation of labourer at steel rolling mill.
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 September 23 21:07 BST (UK)
There is this death:
Emmie Worthington b 9th September 1911 - died Claro, North Yorkshire 1996

There is also a death - Joseph Worthington b abt 1907, died Claro 1966
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 13 September 23 21:20 BST (UK)
That 1966 death has a probate record and the linked person is Emmie Worthington.

I wonder if 1907 is the correct year of birth.  If so it will be the Joseph Charles one mmn Sykes.
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 13 September 23 21:35 BST (UK)
1911 has a Joseph Worthington b 1907 Manchester - parents Joseph & Ann Jane

Joseph is a boiler maker & turner & fitter

Dec 1899 marriage Prestwich - Joseph Worthington/Ann Jane Harrison Prestwich 8D 599

LancsBMD show it was at St Lukes - Miles Platting
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: Millmoor on Wednesday 13 September 23 21:40 BST (UK)
Agree with Carole re the 1911 as a good possibility. Suggest you look for a Joseph Worthyton in the 1921 census to find this family and look at his occupation.

William
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Wednesday 13 September 23 21:41 BST (UK)
This is Joseph's birth registration:

WORTHINGTON, JOSEPH       HARRISON 
GRO Reference: 1907  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 199

His father was Joseph, his mother was Ann Jane Harrison.

He was baptised on 20th March 1907 in Manchester, with his birth date given as 23rd Feb 1907. Anc* has mis-transcribed his surname as 'Warthington.'

Queenie  :)

EDIT: Oops, Carole got their first!
Title: Re: SEARCHING MALE LINE
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 13 September 23 21:44 BST (UK)
Parents married 23.12.1899

Joseph Worthington  - 27 - bachelor - fitter - father John deceased no occ shown

Ann Jane Harrison 22 spinster father Joseph occ labourer

Witnesses Clara Worthington & Ernest Walker