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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Gortinanima on Wednesday 06 September 23 12:42 BST (UK)
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Looking for help with a Maxwell family who moved from Derry to Scotland.
John Maxwell and his wife Jane (Rea/Wray/Rea) moved to Scotland some time after 1875 --
The clue I have is the marriage of their daughter Matilda Maxwell to Richard Dickson at Uddington, Bothwell, Lanark on 31 Dec 1897 (registered 1898). Matilda's father John Maxwell is listed as deceased (a steel scravenger?) and mother Jane (Rae) appears to be alive.
I am only interested in trying to locate the Maxwell family - any help gratefully received thanks.
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Have you found them on the 1881/1891 Scottish census?
When & where was Matilda born?
Have you looked for a death for John as downloading his death cert will give his parents names
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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You say the Maxwell family moved to Scotland after 1875.
I can see Matilda b 1870 on the 1891 but not on the 1881. Did the parents remain in Ireland?
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Have you found them on the 1881/1891 Scottish census?
When & where was Matilda born?
Have you looked for a death for John as downloading his death cert will give his parents names
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
I have just found them in the 1891 census
Grahamston, Turner's land, Neilston, Barrhead & Levern in Renfrewshire
John Maxwell head married 59 (1832) labourer born Ireland
Jane Maxwell wife 51 (1840) b. Ire
Samuel Maxwell son 16 (1875) b. Ireland
So we know the above John Maxwell died between 1891 and 1897
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I can see Matilda b 1870 on the 1891...
Matilda Maxwell born 31 December 1868 at Tamnamore, Glendermot. MMN Wray
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03420/2254590.pdf
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I can see Matilda b 1870 on the 1891...
Matilda Maxwell born 31 December 1868 at Tamnamore, Glendermot. MMN Wray
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03420/2254590.pdf
I have the Irish details, thanks just looking now to locate them in Scotland
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Also Elizabeth Cuthbert from 1891 looks to be Matildas sister.
Elizabeth Dunlop Cuthbert
Birth 2 Jul. 1891, Dennistoun-Glasgow, Lanark
Father
Robert William Cuthbert
Mother
Elizabeth Maxwell* Cuthbert
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Also Elizabeth Cuthbert from 1891 looks to be Matildas sister.
Elizabeth Dunlop Cuthbert
Birth 2 Jul. 1891, Dennistoun-Glasgow, Lanark
Father
Robert William Cuthbert
Mother
Elizabeth Maxwell* Cuthbert
Yes - thanks for that -
Elizabeth Maxwell aged 24, a laundress (dau of John Maxwell & Jane Rae) was residing Holehouse, Neilston in 1890 when she married Robert W Cuthbert a spirit salesman of Neilston
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If you look for the parents deaths on Scotlands People & download the death certs they should give you another generation
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Have found the marriage of Samuel Maxwell (son of John Maxwell & Jane Wray) to Elizabeth McGowan on 25 Nov 1898 - he was residing 19 Temple Place, New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton where the marriage took place. Father listed as deceased but his mother still alive.
Looking now for the deaths of John Maxwell (died between 1891-1897) & his wife Jane (Wray) Maxwell (died after 1898)
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Possible death for Jane:
JANE MAXWELL or RAE
Age 64
Mother's maiden name MCINTYRE
1905
625 / 3 / 57
Bellshill, Lanarkshire
Monica
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Possible death for Jane:
JANE MAXWELL or RAE
Age 64
Mother's maiden name MCINTYRE
1905
625 / 3 / 57
Bellshill, Lanarkshire
Monica
Thankyou for that -
That just leaves John Maxwell to find.
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There are 2 possible deaths in Lanark in 1892 & 1896 but the family were in Renfrew in 1891. Nothing in Renfrew 1891-1898
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Finally found the death of John Maxwell
Recorded New Kirkpatrick, Dunbartonshire 28 Nov 1892 aged 60 years - the informant was a son Joseph Maxwell.
John Maxwell road labourer married to Jane Ray
Parents John Maxwell farmer deceased & Sarah Maxwell formerly Torry, deceased
Joseph provided the wrong information as John Maxwell's father was a Samuel Maxwell according to his marriage certificate in Ireland.
Note - Joseph Maxwell is a son I was not aware of in this family - so I am going to try to locate him as well
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But Matilda said her father was deceased when she married in 1898? The John above was b 1842 & Jane died in Lanark in 1905
I think you have the wrong death
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But Matilda said her father was deceased when she married in 1898? The John above was b 1842 & Jane died in Lanark in 1905
I think you have the wrong death
Well spotted a typo - I have corrected the date to 1892
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Joseph Maxwell 1904-1976 was the son of Samuel Maxwell and Elizabeth McGowan.
He married my relative, Margaret Kerr in Scotstoun 1925 and were divorced in 1949.
(Margaret's father was the older, half brother of my great grandfather)
Although Margaret was born in Old Kilpatrick in 1901 to Irish parents, and appears on the 1901 census with her family, I think a few researchers got her information incorrect.
She and her family had moved back to their hometown in Ireland by 1905.
Her parents both died before 1911 and she was boarded out with an older couple in her parents hometown.
At some point, in the early 1920's Margaret and her older brother are known to have moved back to Scotland which is how she came to marry Joseph Maxwell.
Anne
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Joseph Maxwell 1904-1976 was the son of Samuel Maxwell and Elizabeth McGowan.
He married my relative, Margaret Kerr in Scotstoun 1925 and were divorced in 1949.
(Margaret's father was the older, half brother of my great grandfather)
Although Margaret was born in Old Kilpatrick in 1901 to Irish parents, and appears on the 1901 census with her family, I think a few researchers got her information incorrect.
She and her family had moved back to their hometown in Ireland by 1905.
Her parents both died before 1911 and she was boarded out with an older couple in her parents hometown.
At some point, in the early 1920's Margaret and her older brother are known to have moved back to Scotland which is how she came to marry Joseph Maxwell.
Anne
Thanks Anne for that information - very helpful
Do you know if Joseph & Margaret had any children?
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Not the same Joseph present at the death in 1892.
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Joseph Maxwell and Margaret Kerr had 2 daughters, both born in Glasgow
Margaret Maxwell b 1927 and Elizabeth Maxwell b 1929
As Joseph was born in 1904, he was not the son who registered the 1892 death
Assuming the information on the thread is correct, this Joseph was grandson of the deceased.
Anne