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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: Katie Steele on Tuesday 05 September 23 21:40 BST (UK)
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Timothy has been one ancestor I've come back to many times and can not get past him. So I'd thought I'd ask for some help/advice.
1807 - Timothy Clarkson married Mary Jones in Stapleton, they were both of that parish. Witnesses are Ann and Richard Blaney
1841 - Leebotwood, Timothy, Ag Lab, aged 55, born out of county
Mary, aged 50, born in county
1851- Leebotwood, Timothy, Ag Lab, aged 80? (mark through age), not known birthplace
Mary, aged 73, clungunford
1853 - Timothy dies Leebotwood aged 87.
1860 - Mary dies Condover aged 86 (newspaper confirmed widow of late Timothy Clarkson of Leebotwood)
So for Timothy I have the following possible birth years , 1786,1771,1766 with no known birth place. Is there anyway of tracing him back, or will he forever be my brick wall?
Thank you to anyone willing to have a look see for me :)
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Possibility
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7WP-TR8
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Possibly the same man dying too young
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68ZD-F577
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Yes - I think you are right so "another one bites the dust"
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Have you found the children born to Timothy and Mary?
Often (but not always) the eldest son is named after the father's father. It's a vague hope!!
Also, Timothy is not that common a name as opposed to John, William, Thomas etc. It may be a name which came down through the family - might it be worth searching further back for a possible location?
Desperate measures and all that!!
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1841 has another Timothy with them age 25 baptised 26 Jun 1814.
There's a Jemima baptised 29 Mar 1808 - appreciate you may already have these children.
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Try looking for other Clarksons in the area who are of the right age to be parents or siblings, maybe they came from elsewhere
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Hi,
I've checked the children of Timothy and Mary through the censuses, I found no clues unfortunately.
I've found christenings of two families that could be the siblings of Timothy, in Oswestry and Bridgnorth, but couldn't find a Timothy among them.
Stefan
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Katie, you may already know this but it is something I only learned very recently on a FB group.
It may not be totally applicable in this case but in the 1841 census almost all ages above the age of 20 were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 10 years. It sounds unlikely but just check a page and you will see that almost every adult's age ends in a 0 or a 5. So someone aged 54 would appear as 50 and someone aged 59 would appear as 55.
Not everyone knew their exact age in 1841 so someone aged say 57 but guessing their age as 54 could appear in the census as aged 50, 7 years younger than they really were. Just something to be aware of with differences in census ages.
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Just in case, children found so far of Timothy Clarkson and Mary nee Jones
Jemima bap 29 March 1808 married William Davies 24 May 1841, witness Timothy Clarkson, Jane ?
dies after 1881 census.
Anne bap 18 March 1810 married Thomas Millman 25 June 1835 at Condover, witness John Williams and Emma Millman.
Sarah bap 1 March 1812 - 1861 a Nurse in Hackney, 1881 age 69 living with her sister Ann Millman. Died 1884 still single.
Timothy bap 26 June 1814 -died 1867 - (1851 Patient, 1861 committed to an asylum) single.
Mary bap 25 August 1816 died 1893 single. (1851,1861, 1871 Housekeeper, 1891 living with sister Ann Millman)
Job bap 8 August 1819 buried 1 May 1820 age 8 months Leebotwood
Martha bap 20 January 1822 died 1907 single. 1901 visiting Mary Millman - housekeeper a daughter of her sister Ann Millman.
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It may not be totally applicable in this case but in the 1841 census almost all ages above the age of 20 were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 10 years. It sounds unlikely but just check a page and you will see that almost every adult's age ends in a 0 or a 5. So someone aged 54 would appear as 50 and someone aged 59 would appear as 55.
Not everyone knew their exact age in 1841 so someone aged say 57 but guessing their age as 54 could appear in the census as aged 50, 7 years younger than they really were. Just something to be aware of with differences in census ages.
The instruction given to enumerators was that ages above 15 years were to be rounded down.
'Write the age of every person under 15 years of age as it is stated to you. For persons aged 15 years and upwards, write the lowest of the term of 5 years within which the age is'
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GHP/HelpPage1841
In this case Timothy's age is 55 in 1841 and appears to be 80 or 82 in 1851, Mary is 50 then 73, so a bit much to have anything to do with rounding.
Debra :)
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Not that it really helps :( but remember that surnames were not always recorded consistently in the registers, so perhaps bear in mind any Timothy Clark(e) baptisms