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Title: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Tuesday 15 August 23 14:41 BST (UK)
Can anyone help  , or point me in right direction,  some one was sent to prison around 1944 for getting a minor pregnant iv been told she was very young  she gave birth June 1944 the man in question was born 1913 , I know the mans name and area he lived  was hartlepool  , and I believe he he was born there and died there so stayed in that area iv looked at newspapers but can not find anything , , any help is appreciated 
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Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: Jebber on Tuesday 15 August 23 16:19 BST (UK)
Perhaps you have put too much information into the search. Have you tried just putting the man’s name in inverted commas and the exact year. That often works provided it is not a very common name, it even works with a common name like John Smith, but there would be far too many results  to sift through.

Of course it is quite possible the relevant  papers have yet to digitised.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Tuesday 15 August 23 16:29 BST (UK)
If you are referring searching newspapers I just put his name and searched the year then it was just a free search as I'm not a paying subscriber of newspapers I also searched criminal records on ancestry but they didn't go that far , if just looked at prisoners on national archive again nothing came up but I'm no good at national archive,  but thank you for trying to help
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: GrahamSimons on Tuesday 15 August 23 21:54 BST (UK)
Newspapers that "recent" are less likely to be digitised. You may need to look at microfilmed copies in the county archives.  They may be able to advise on court records too.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Tuesday 15 August 23 22:18 BST (UK)
Ok thank you but I dont know where the county archives are kept or how to contact them
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: Jebber on Tuesday 15 August 23 22:48 BST (UK)
Sometimes libraries hold microfilm copies or their local papers. Perhaps they would do a search for you, or you could find someone willing to look. You have a tight time scale date wise, so it wouldn’t be an onerous job.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: GrahamSimons on Tuesday 15 August 23 23:46 BST (UK)
Ok thank you but I dont know where the county archives are kept or how to contact them
Start with the council website. Look for the archives service, or possibly the museum service or library service. A Google search for county and archive,  e.g. 'Buckinghamshire archives ' will usually succeed.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 August 23 00:18 BST (UK)
If the offence took place in Hartlepool then search under Durham.   If it took place in a different county then use that county
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: GR2 on Wednesday 16 August 23 08:49 BST (UK)
Don't restrict your search to the county where the crime took place, as they are often reported more widely. Unfortunately, with paper shortages during the war, newspapers didn't always print as much as they did and do.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: angelfish58 on Wednesday 16 August 23 10:16 BST (UK)
The Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail is available on Find My Past and covers the 1940s.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:00 BST (UK)
Thank you every one for helping me but I'm at a loss , I'm not a member of find my past and haven't a clue how to start looking on library or for court records I'm just going to have to leave it but thank you all for your time
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:02 BST (UK)
If we had a name for the man we might be able to help.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:16 BST (UK)
His  name was Robert Robinson 1913 birth hartlepool , his parents Robert 1893 and may snowdon 1895 Robert 1913 is the one in question... I believe he never left hartlepool and never married , he lived his life with his parents Robert and may along with his illigitamat son 1944 , Robert 1913 had to wear a special boot and worked for a time on the docs   he went by the nick name big Bobby .. I wasnt sure if I could name him
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:19 BST (UK)
It’s ok to name people who are deceased but is the person b 1944 who you have named also deceased?  If not - you need to remove his name from your reply

Most libraries offer free Ancestry/FindMyPast access
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:22 BST (UK)
Thank you iv removed his name he is still alive but is at a bad stage sadly of vascular dementia, 
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:25 BST (UK)
Dreadful illness.  I have a friend who has been diagnosed with double dementia.  Alzheimer's & vascular
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:39 BST (UK)
Not seeing anything in the online newspapers....
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:40 BST (UK)
Yes it is he cant remember his wife's name or me his sister in law and just keeps saying hes deaf with working on the JCB,s and saying he is now engaged
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: Andy J2022 on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:54 BST (UK)
There are several reports (sample below) about a bank robber named George Robert Robinson who was sentenced to 5 years in prison for his crime, but that was at the York Assizes in November 1947, so since that was the wrong place, the wrong date and the wrong offence, possibly not the man you are looking for.
Title: Re: Prison sentence 1944
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 16 August 23 14:58 BST (UK)
No mine was just Robert but thank you for trying