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hello I have hit abit of a brick wall with my family tree. I am looking for Marys parents as I can not find a marriage document on Joseph and Mary.
Mary (not sure on maiden name)
B:abt 1868 in Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
D:March 1904 in Staffordshire, United Kingdom
she was married to Joseph Birbige Willshee
B:July 1867 Burton upon Trent
D:Apr 1931 Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
There is evidence of them both living together in 1901 Censers but Mary died about age 36
thank you ever so much
April Griffiths
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Possibly Froggatt according to GRO https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
1901 2643/8/8
Shows 3 children
Annie aged 10 months b Leicestershire
GRO shows Annie Maria b 1900
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Mary / Martha Froggatt
Bapt 18 March 1866 Burton upon Trent
father Thomas Froggatt; mother Martha Millward
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thank you both so much i will enter the name into the family tree thank you both :) xx
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Joseph Willshee can be found as a widower in 1911 census with the following.
Joseph Willshee 45 Head
Alice Willshee 25 Daughter*
Kate Willshee 16 Daughter
George Tomas Willshee 18 Son
Annie Willshee 11 Daughter** born as per heywoods post
Leslie Willshee 3 Grandson
*WILSHEE, ALICE mmn BAGNALL
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 404
Who's children are Kate & George Tomas. Were they Mary's children or Joseph's
Weird! Joseph appears in 1921 with a son George Thomas aged 38
John
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Thomas and Kate are also in 1901 census with Joseph and Mary.
I only looked up Annie for a mother’s name.
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Is this Kate from 1901/11 census??
WILLSHEE, MARY KATE BAGNALL
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 415
John
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This 1891 entry suggests Alice is Mary's daughter
Martha Froggatt 75 Head
Mary Froggatt 24 Daughter
Sarah Capp 19 Granddaughter
Alice Froggatt 6 Granddaughter
Is this Kate from 1901/11 census??
WILLSHEE, MARY KATE BAGNALL
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 415
John
Kate was b c1895 not c1883?
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FROGGATT, ALICE ELIZA
no mother's maiden name
Q4 1885 BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 390
Alice Eliza Froggatt
Baptism 11 Nov 1885 Holy Trinity, Burton-upon-Trent,
Mother Mary Froggatt
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Thomas Frogatt
Baptism 30 Sep 1892 Holy Trinity, Burton-upon-Trent,
Mother Mary Frogatt
Presumably George Thomas
There's a Thomas Alfred Froggatt, with no mmn, registered Q4 1892 in Burton. Would fit if the baptism came before registration
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1901 Alice Froggatt is a boarder at a girls' home in Newcastle upon Tyne district
Another child
Mary Jane Froggatt
Baptism 20 Jul 1890 Holy Trinity, Burton-upon-Trent,
Mother Mary Froggatt
Died Q3 1890
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Oh dear, information given in replies 1 and 2 was correct. (The Bagnall name is wrong)
“Mary” was baptised with the name Martha Froggatt, but appears on the census records as either Martha, Mary or Margaret.
1891 census Burton upon Trent
Martha Froggatt 75 wid born Longford
Mary Froggatt 24 tape weaver born Burton upon Trent
Sarah Capp 19 granddaughter born Burton upon Trent
Alice Froggatt 6 granddaughter born Burton upon Trent (child of Mary)
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Mary / Martha Froggatt
Bapt 18 March 1866 Burton upon Trent
father Thomas Froggatt; mother Martha Millward
Thomas Froggatt appears in the census as a brewers drayman or waggoner
Born 9 mar 1827 Hatton Derbyshire son of Thomas and Ann
Marriage 1 Aug 1850 Marston on Dove to Martha Millward
Died 2 June 1881 – 64 Wetmore Rd. Burton on Trent
Martha Milward
Baptism 23 Jul 1826 Longford, Derbyshire. Daughter of Hannan Milward (spinster) father named as “Simon Bradshaw”
Died 1894, burial 10 March
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Thanks for finding out who was who Mabel & Neale.
I was very tired last night and just lost the plot! :)
John
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Kate is still a mystery
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Kate is still a mystery
There is a Mary Ann Willshee mmn Froggatt born March quarter 1895, Burton Upon Trent
Has she been mentioned or discounted?
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Could Mary Ann just be using the name Kate?
I can't find a death or a census entry for a Mary Ann WILLSHEE b.1895 in 1901 or 1911. I have found this death in 1912,
Mary Ann WILLSHEE Mar Q 1912 Burton upon Trent 6b 555
Age: 17
Regards,
Daisy