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Title: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: gardenguy on Sunday 13 August 23 01:26 BST (UK)
My 3rd maternal great grandmother, Sarah Rice (DOB 28Nov1822) and her sister Bridget Rice (DOB 15June 1825) came to the US in 1834 from Armagh. I am trying to discover who their parents were.
Sarah married Thomas Jefferson Chaffin and eventually settled in Nebraska. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 13 August 23 05:39 BST (UK)
Welcome to Roostchat!

How did the two girls get from Armagh to the US......have you found the ship/lists.  Who were they accompanied by?

When did Sarah die and what were the names of her children please and the same for Bridget please.  Some Irish families used an irish naming pattern and you can get clues as to parents names from the names of their children
https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/news/irish-naming-conventions-and-baptism-traditions

It is useful to know the religion to help track Irish ancestors. What religion were they? 
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 13 August 23 05:54 BST (UK)
There is an entry on Family Search for a Sarah Rice coming over on the Lord Glenely in 1836 and arriving into New York. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPX-YR45

On the same shipping list are
Margt Rice 30 years
Patrick Rice  29 ? years
Michael Rice 13 years
Peter Rice 7
Sarah Rice  12
????(can't read it looks to end in 'th') Rice 9

Are there clues as to the name of the father from the marriage certificates? 
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 13 August 23 06:22 BST (UK)
Is this the death of one of Sarah's children? James Quincy Chaffin?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPKB-LSRL

TJ Chaffin and Sarah Rice Chaffin burial in Nebraska. 
https://billiongraves.com/images?t=med21344742&col=1&cat=66346&rec=24968252

James Quincy born 1854
Thomas Caffin born 1856

Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 13 August 23 06:27 BST (UK)
I often look on the national census for ireland particulalry the 1901/11 ones.  I set the parameters to show the oldest names.  They may have been siblings/cousins of the ones who emigrated and who have stayed in ireland.

I often research these oldest ones to see how they fit into the family.

In the 1901 census there is a Bridget Rice aged 76, single, living in Clea, Keady rural Co Armagh. 
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Keady_Rural/Clea/1014177/
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 13 August 23 08:16 BST (UK)
Hiya Gardenguy and a warm welcome to Rootschat

this is a familytree owned by a Chaffin - so it should be pretty near the facts - not all trees are correct


https://gw.geneanet.org/lanechaffin?n=chaffin&oc=1&p=thomas+jefferson
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: scotskelly on Tuesday 03 October 23 19:59 BST (UK)
Hello,
I discovered earlier this year that I have a genetic connection (DNA) with several descendants of Peter Rice and Sarah Rice of Highland County, Ohio. I also have a close connection to the Rice family in my Y DNA matches.
In attempting to solve this mystery I have been researching the Rice family recently, and have added the results of this research to Family Search and Wikitree.
Basically, the Rice family, i.e., siblings, Michael, Sarah, Peter and Bridget emigrated from County Armagh presumably with their parents (presently unknown) to Highland County Ohio, in 1826, where both Sarah and Bridget (Biddie) married in 1841, Sarah to Thomas Jefferson Chalfant/Chalfont/Chaffin and Bridget to John Griffith.
The Rice family appear from the Census returns and the naming pattern of their children to have had a close relationship to a Hughes family who also moved to Highland County in 1826 (from Campbell County, Virginia). The Hughes family originated in Maytone Townland, Parish of Loughgilly (near Newry), County Armagh.
I can provide more information directly

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Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: eileenwilson on Tuesday 03 October 23 22:44 BST (UK)
There is an entry on Family Search for a Sarah Rice coming over on the Lord Glenely in 1836 and arriving into New York. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPX-YR45

On the same shipping list are
Margt Rice 30 years
Patrick Rice  29 ? years
Michael Rice 13 years
Peter Rice 7
Sarah Rice  12
????(can't read it looks to end in 'th') Rice 9

Are there clues as to the name of the father from the marriage certificates?

Theh last name on that list is Judith A., aged 9, so not the same family.
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: scotskelly on Monday 15 January 24 16:25 GMT (UK)
Hello,
I have been researching the Rice family of Highland County, Ohio who originated in south Armagh, possibly Loughgilly Parish?
Siblings, Michael, Sarah, Peter and Bridget.
I have information that their parents were a Thomas Rice and a Margaret Feenan. I also note however another contributors information concerning the Glenelg, which sailed into New York in 1836 on board which was a Rice family with similar names, except the father who was named, Patrick. I am happy to discuss further.
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: scotskelly on Monday 15 January 24 16:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Wondering where you got the information that Sarah and Biddy e.igrated from Armagh in 1834, moving to Highland County, Ohio. From research I have done, it appears they had at least two brothers, I.e., Michael and Peter.
They appear to have had a close relationship with a Hughes family from Loughgilly Parish, County Armagh.
Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: scotskelly on Monday 15 January 24 23:08 GMT (UK)
I have had a look at the Passenger List for the "Lord Glenelg", which arrived in New York on 18th October 1836.
The Rice Family onboard were as follows:
Margaret Rice    31    Principal Passenger in the family group, indicating she was a Widow.
Pat Rice            27     (Possibly Margaret's brother in law)
Michael Rice      13     (Margaret's son)
Peter  Rice          7     (Margaret's son)
Sarah Rice        12     (Margaret's daughter)
?       Rice           9?   (Margaret's daughter) this entry is almost illegible, but has been transcribed
                                  I believe wrongly as Ju-dith? The Index card appears more ambiguous as to
                                the proper name, with the Ju written lightly followed by a scrawl then finishing
                                with ditt or th?
                                 Looking at the name it could end , "it"meaning it could well have been
                                 Bridgit?
                                The age of 9, is also only partially legible and is open to interpretation.

Title: Re: Sarah Rice of Armagh
Post by: scotskelly on Monday 15 January 24 23:18 GMT (UK)
Apologies I previously stated that the Rice family emigrated from County Armagh to Ohio in 1826. This was an error, having discovered the 1836 Passenger List for the Lord Glenelg which arrived in New York on 18th October 1836, I now have evidence that the family arrived 10 years later. The new date, actually makes more sense regarding the ages of the Rice children when they were emigrating.