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Title: Help with 1861 census
Post by: Kerrill on Tuesday 08 August 23 15:46 BST (UK)
I am hoping someone can put me on the right track, in the 1861 census (ref: RG9/3137/137 p22) my ancestor Francis Morrison has a Richard and Margaret with a daughter Margaret aged one living with them, I can't make out thier second name as I have searched for Kelly, Scelly , Reilly and others but no babtism or birth for the young Margaret. I was hoping that the Margaret was the daughter of Francis and Ann but without knowing the correct surname I have no chance of finding out.
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 08 August 23 15:50 BST (UK)
It might be O'Reilly.

Have you looked for a pre 1861 marriage for Margaret Morrison to a Richard?  That might be the easiest way.
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: Kerrill on Tuesday 08 August 23 16:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for the quick response Millie,  yes have searched for marriage of Margaret Morrison and a Richard but nothing that really sticks out.
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 08 August 23 16:15 BST (UK)
Are Francis & Ann on the next census? 

Is 1861 the first one the family appears on (in England)
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: The Yokel on Tuesday 08 August 23 16:42 BST (UK)
Are you sure that Richard is in the same house, as his “relation to Head of family” is shown as head
And he has a different schedule to the house above.
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 08 August 23 16:42 BST (UK)
They are listed on that census as 2 separate households by the / at the edge of the record.  :-\.   It is possible that they are not related
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 August 23 16:55 BST (UK)
On the next page, there is:
Ann Hutchison, 28 yrs lodger, married Cotton Winder, b Ireland

Then, separate household
James Morrisson? 24 yrs
Mary 23 yrs
Francis, son 4 yrs
Margaret daughter 1 yr
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 August 23 16:59 BST (UK)
Margaret Morrison b 1859, Preston mmn Barrigan
Francis b 1856 - same details

Added - likely marriage
1856 Preston Register Office or Registrar attended
James Morrison and Mary Beregan
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: Kerrill on Tuesday 08 August 23 21:07 BST (UK)
Yes James is Frances Morrison's son, I have his marriage cert. I thought it possible that it was a different houshold but still stumped that there is no birth cert or baptism for young Margaret.
Title: Re: Help with 1861 census
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 August 23 22:03 BST (UK)
Do you know if there is a daughter Margaret?

There is a marriage 1859, Richard Kelly and Margaret Murphy, Preston
Birth 1860, Mary Kelly with mmn Murphy

Then there is a birth in 1861
Michael Kelly with mmn Morrison

However, neither of these seem to fit with your family and I can’t find further info.