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Title: Postcard dating
Post by: emeraldcity on Saturday 29 July 23 17:56 BST (UK)
The song referenced on the back is from 1927 but I'm not sure if it was written on at a later date?


Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 30 July 23 08:03 BST (UK)
Bringing this up the board a bit to see if someone can help.

They look to be on board a ship, somewhere cold. Are you able to make out the words across the top of the cap?
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: emeraldcity on Sunday 30 July 23 13:35 BST (UK)
Quote from: Neale1961 on Sunday 30 July 23 08:03 BST (UK)
Bringing this up the board a bit to see if someone can help.

They look to be on board a ship, somewhere cold. Are you able to make out to words across the top of the cap?

I thought it might say Venus?
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: Tin man on Sunday 30 July 23 16:21 BST (UK)
Yes, cap tally looks like Venus / Ventis / Ventia.
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: hoobaloo on Sunday 30 July 23 17:32 BST (UK)
Resized a section but still can't read the cap letters, John.
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: Keybob on Monday 31 July 23 14:23 BST (UK)
Venus history does not seem to fit but Vectis may.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Vectis_(D51) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Vectis_(D51))
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: tonepad on Monday 31 July 23 16:09 BST (UK)
Quote from: hoobaloo on Sunday 30 July 23 17:32 BST (UK)
Resized a section but still can't read the cap letters, John.

The cap tally bow appears to be over the nose and should be over the left ear if worn correctly. Therefore the ship's name has more letters than "Vectis".

Cap tally bow over left ear:
https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/boy-1st-class-john-jack-travers-cornwell-vc


Tony
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: emeraldcity on Monday 31 July 23 21:42 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone who's given this some thought. Shame the photo isn't a bit more sharp!
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: Tin man on Tuesday 01 August 23 19:41 BST (UK)
One last thought, the back end of the gun looks like a BL 6-inch Mk7 Naval gun which was fitted to the insect class gunboats in WW1. One of them served in Arkangel, Northern Russia in 1919 during the Russian civil war, named HMS MANTIS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect-class_gunboat
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: shanreagh on Wednesday 02 August 23 09:59 BST (UK)
My understanding through having a husband in the Royal NZ Navy, is that during times of war the cap tally does not have the name of the ship on it. This is so that if a ship is sunk or a cap is lost that the enemy cannot get information about the ships that may have been in the area.  In NZ they were issued with a cap tally that just had RNZN or even HMS.  He only had to wear the RNZN cap tally once when transiting offshore from Vietnam during the Vietnam War.  He also got a war allowance for being in Vietnamese waters, meticulously calculated from the records as they were doing a bit of zig zagging and they were not eligible when in open waters.

Point being that if the pic was taken in war that there may not be a cap tally with name on it. 
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 05 August 23 14:01 BST (UK)
I gave it a clean for your you.
Carol
Title: Re: Postcard dating
Post by: emeraldcity on Saturday 05 August 23 19:38 BST (UK)
Thanks Carol. Nicely done.