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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: hheapet on Friday 09 September 05 10:03 BST (UK)
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hi,
looking for information on my grandmother Gladys May Musgrove/Musgrave. Family tittle tattle has it that she was born in an orphanage in the Carlisle area. He mother had a fling with the owner of a large biscuit factory and was shoved in a home/orphanage when found to be with child.
this would have been around 1900. Gladys later joined the forces and married a Thomas Wainwright and settled in Newcastle-u-Lyme
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hi,
looking for information on my grandmother Gladys May Musgrove/Musgrave. Family tittle tattle has it that she was born in an orphanage in the Carlisle area. He mother had a fling with the owner of a large biscuit factory and was shoved in a home/orphanage when found to be with child.
this would have been around 1900. Gladys later joined the forces and married a Thomas Wainwright and settled in Newcastle-u-Lyme
this is the only one I can find on BVRI
MUSGRAVE Gladys Mary Christening
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1890
Christening Date: 9 Mar 1890 Lancaster Lancashire England
St Mary
Father Joseph MUSGRAVE
Mother Mary Jane
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thanks for that. I have found her birth as registered in 1899 and on 1901 census residing with a family in Burgh by Sands. now nead to get copy of birth certificate to locate mother and if possible father
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Are there 2 Gladys May Musgrove
Gladys May born Sept 1899 Carlisle.
Only one Gladys M on 1901 liviing with parents in Derby aged 2
Father Charles 42
Mother Kate 34
Mary 20
Harriet E 18
Frances G 14
Edith 9
Charles 9
Gladys M 2
regards
L M
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Hi
The famous biscuit factory still exists now "McVitties" but was owned by the equally famous "Carr", family who owned a large part of Carlisle, and probably still do. Has to be loads of history in that family.
With regards the orphanage I am sure there were several or more in those days. But again one the famous/infamous was what is now the Austain Friars school, I believe back in the good old days it was run by nuns and priests who were quite cruel to the kids and used to ship them off to different parts of the world. The impressive four story building still exists on the top of a hill at St Anne's Carlisle.
Mike C
Carlisle
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thanks for the 'Carr' name Mike. that has given me a good line to work with.
Peter
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If you haven't already tracked it down try "Rich Desserts & Captain Thins" by Margaret Foster
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0099748916/026-8874202-9782844
she is a Carlisle born author with an interest in family history and this is all about the Carr family.
Also worth a look re Carlisle history is "Hidden Lives" - her autobiography that compares her life with her mother and grandmother growing up in Carlisle. It was this book that started my interest in family history.....