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Title: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 16:24 BST (UK)
They married in 1892 and had three children (that I have found).
John Willie  b 2/3/1895  (Dudley Jun 6c 63), Benjamin James jnr.  b 1897 (Dudley Jun 6c 90) who died 3/6/1913 (Wolverhampton Jun 6b 704) and Reginald  b 16/9/1904 (Wolverhampton Dec 6b 646). The 1901 census shows the whole family of five. The 1911 census shows Benjamin James snr. with his three children whilst Emily is on a hospital census where it states she had four children of which one had died. Can anyone please help me find their dead child?
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 July 23 16:30 BST (UK)
Have you checked on the GRO index for birth registrations with those surnames in that time period?

Can also check there for a possible death in that time period and match them up.

There is a gap between 1897 and 1904 children so can look there first then 1905-1911.
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 16:36 BST (UK)
I have done that using BMD but there so many that it could possibly be.
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 July 23 16:39 BST (UK)
Maybe  :-\
GREGORY, MARTHA       mmn TOWNSEND 
GRO Reference: 1893  June Quarter in CANNOCK  Volume 06B  Page 561

Deaths Jun qtr 1893   
Gregory    Martha    0    Cannock    6b   289
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 22 July 23 16:41 BST (UK)
There is a Martha born and died in Cannock in 1893, you do not say where the couple married.

Just beat me Rosie.
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 July 23 16:44 BST (UK)
Marriage Dec qtr 1892 
Gregory    Benjamin James       
Townsend    Emily       
W. Bromwich    6b   1235
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 16:47 BST (UK)
Yes I was just about to post that
They married in 1892 (West Bromwich Dec 6b 1235).
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 16:50 BST (UK)
Using freeREG, the only Martha Gregory baptims that comes up is in Deryshire with the wrong parents.
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 July 23 16:51 BST (UK)
I have done that using BMD but there so many that it could possibly be.

Are you using the GRO index to locate the births, you can add mothers maiden surname to that search.
The only other Gregory / Townsend birth registrations that I can see in England/Wales 1892 - 1911 were registered in Keynsham.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 17:05 BST (UK)
Thank you for the web link, very useful. It can't be the other location, too many other children!
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 July 23 17:14 BST (UK)
As the birth and death registration are in the same quarter it is likely that the parents did not get around to baptising her.

Have you seen that images for some birth and death registrations are now available from that website for £2.50 each
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=868875.
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 17:26 BST (UK)
Why do you think that the birth and death were in the same quarter? We don't know if the child was a boy or girl. Could one possibility be that Emily had a still birth but counted that as have a child that died?
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 July 23 17:35 BST (UK)
Maybe  :-\
GREGORY, MARTHA       mmn TOWNSEND 
GRO Reference: 1893  June Quarter in CANNOCK  Volume 06B  Page 561

Deaths Jun qtr 1893   
Gregory    Martha    0    Cannock    6b   289
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 July 23 17:39 BST (UK)
It is true that the question could have been answered wrongly, buying the birth registration image would answer who the parents were.  I have just checked Gregory / Townsend births back to 1880, they are only showing the Keynsham area family
Title: Re: Missing child of Benjamin James Gregory and Emily (nee Townsend)
Post by: allang on Saturday 22 July 23 17:50 BST (UK)
I assumed you meant 'if' and not 'as'. Thank you I think it is more likely than not that Martha is the missing child. I will have to get the birth certificate to confirm. Thank you for your help.