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Title: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Friday 21 July 23 15:38 BST (UK)
Hia folks,

I'm wondering if someone has a subscription for the 1921 Scottish Census and can help me.  My Grandmother was Annie Morris (1900-1986) Born Chelmarsh, Shropshire.  She's in the 1911 England & Wales Census living with her parents William and Elizabeth in Bridgnorth, Shropshire.

My Mother says her Mom went up to Scotland as a Servant.  I have been on a Scottish genealogy website, and it appears there's a number of Annie Morris's aged around 20-22 in Scotland at this time. 

Would anyone know if "my" Annie was amongst these please?

Thanks
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 21 July 23 16:01 BST (UK)
There are 8 hits for Annie Morris age 19-21 in the census. There is no subscription at scotlandspeople, it is a pay-per-view site.
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Friday 21 July 23 18:01 BST (UK)
Ok, I've paid for 30 credits, to find each Census I view is worth 6 credits!! So I've viewed 2 and neither are right ::)

Is there a way I can add her Birthplace as that might narrow it down?



Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 July 23 16:26 BST (UK)
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My Mother says her Mom went up to Scotland as a Servant.

Just a thought but it would also depend how old she was when she went as she might not have been there at the time of the 1921 census. 
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: AlanBoyd on Saturday 22 July 23 17:43 BST (UK)
I looked for a way to include place of birth before my original response, but couldn’t see how to do it.
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: loobylooayr on Saturday 22 July 23 18:51 BST (UK)
Hi - there is no option to search the 1921 Census using place of birth on Scotland's People.

There are 9 Annie Morris aged between 19-22 on the Census. Two have middle initials. Annie B and Annie R. One is an Annie Jane Morris.
I looked at the ref. no for each Annie Morris.

Then, searching the name Morris in each area for all 9 women - 6 of the Annie Morris appeared to be living with other people called Morris (they all shared the same ref).
Three, listed below, do not appear to be living with anyone called Morris.

Looby :)


MORRIS
ANNIE
1921
F
22
486/ 7/ 1
MUIRAVONSIDE
STIRLING

MORRIS
ANNIE
1921
F
22
644/18 45/ 21
POLLOKSHIELDS
LANARK

MORRIS
ANNIE
1921
F
21
168/1 9/ 1
ST NICHOLAS
ABERDEEN
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 23 July 23 16:09 BST (UK)
I looked for a way to include place of birth before my original response, but couldn’t see how to do it.

I have no idea what age she went there, all I know is that I cannot seem to find her in the 1921 England & Wales Census on FindMyPast (I have not subscribed, but you can do a basic search)
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 23 July 23 16:11 BST (UK)
Hi - there is no option to search the 1921 Census using place of birth on Scotland's People.

There are 9 Annie Morris aged between 19-22 on the Census. Two have middle initials. Annie B and Annie R. One is an Annie Jane Morris.
I looked at the ref. no for each Annie Morris.

Then, searching the name Morris in each area for all 9 women - 6 of the Annie Morris appeared to be living with other people called Morris (they all shared the same ref).
Three, listed below, do not appear to be living with anyone called Morris.

Looby :)


MORRIS
ANNIE
1921
F
22
486/ 7/ 1
MUIRAVONSIDE
STIRLING

MORRIS
ANNIE
1921
F
22
644/18 45/ 21
POLLOKSHIELDS
LANARK

MORRIS
ANNIE
1921
F
21
168/1 9/ 1
ST NICHOLAS
ABERDEEN

Thank you for your help.  "My" Annie Morris was born in Shropshire, and I noticed all of those were born in Scotland.  It's frustrating you can't search with a place of birth.
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 23 July 23 16:13 BST (UK)
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My Mother says her Mom went up to Scotland as a Servant.

Just a thought but it would also depend how old she was when she went as she might not have been there at the time of the 1921 census.

I have no idea when she went to live in Scotland, but it would've been before she married my Grandfather in 1928.  You're right, it doesn't look like she was in Scotland in the 1921 Census.  Nor can I find her in the 1921 England & Wales Census on Find my Past (I've only done the basic search as I've not subscribed to it) though she could be living with another family?
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: josey on Sunday 23 July 23 16:23 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help.  "My" Annie Morris was born in Shropshire, and I noticed all of those were born in Scotland. 
Are any of those three loobylooayr found [by an ingenious search!] ones that you have looked at? Otherwise how do you know they were born in Scotland? It's not stated on the index.
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 23 July 23 16:51 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help.  "My" Annie Morris was born in Shropshire, and I noticed all of those were born in Scotland. 
Are any of those three loobylooayr found [by an ingenious search!] ones that you have looked at? Otherwise how do you know they were born in Scotland? It's not stated on the index.

Yes I did subscribe and look at those three.  I'm sure all their birthplaces was in Scotland?
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 23 July 23 17:26 BST (UK)
Is it possible that she worked in Wolverhampton?
Free search of 1921 census
Annie Morris 1899 Glazeley, Shropshire
She is single and a servant in the household of Thomas Edgecombe Hickman.
16 in the household, 4 Hickman and a variety of other surnames.
T E Hickman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Hickman
Title: Re: My Grandmother was a servant in Scotland
Post by: crazydaizy on Monday 24 July 23 08:12 BST (UK)
Is it possible that she worked in Wolverhampton?
Free search of 1921 census
Annie Morris 1899 Glazeley, Shropshire
She is single and a servant in the household of Thomas Edgecombe Hickman.
16 in the household, 4 Hickman and a variety of other surnames.
T E Hickman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Hickman

Thank you for that, it's definitely a possibility, and maybe this is it.