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Title: Vanished?
Post by: xpress4 on Thursday 20 July 23 05:00 BST (UK)
Please, any help findindg:

Fenton Moore b. ~1833 Queens County, Ireland, married Joannah (sp?) Power in 1860 Salford.
They are listed in the 1861 census in Salford, but appear to have vanished after that.

Fenton's parents John and Catherine Moore
Joannah's parents John and Catherine Power

in addition, his sister Ann "Oney" Moore Burke, married John Burke in Salford in 1858. But they seemed to have vanished after 1881.

They are all together in the 1861 census in Salford with mother Catherine Moore.

Any ideas what became of them?

Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 20 July 23 05:36 BST (UK)
Apart from his wife's name could this be Fenton and his mother in 1871 - living in Leeds

Catherine Moore   60 Mother
Finton Moore   40 b Ireland  Dyers Labourer
Catherine Moore   37
Rosemma Moore   8
Jane Moore   6
James Moore   4
Thomas Moore   3

Kay
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: xpress4 on Thursday 20 July 23 05:40 BST (UK)
I considered that Kay99, but I found mother Catherine in Salford living with her daughter Ann Burke and her husband in 1871. No Fenton to be found. :(
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 20 July 23 06:22 BST (UK)
Please, any help findindg:

Fenton Moore b. ~1833 Queens County, Ireland, married Joannah (sp?) Power in 1860 Salford.
They are listed in the 1861 census in Salford, but appear to have vanished after that.


GRO index for that marriage has Francis Moors & Joanna Power
Also on LancashireBMD
MOORS   Francis   
POWER   Joanna   
1860   Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 20 July 23 06:38 BST (UK)
Apart from his wife's name could this be Fenton and his mother in 1871 - living in Leeds

Catherine Moore   60 Mother
Finton Moore   40 b Ireland  Dyers Labourer
Catherine Moore   37
Rosemma Moore   8
Jane Moore   6
James Moore   4
Thomas Moore   3

Kay

They are in Leeds in 1861/71/81
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: jomcd967 on Monday 24 July 23 12:32 BST (UK)
England Roman Catholic Marriages

Fenton Moore, of Mill street, father Jacobi (*James) Moore, married Catherine Martin, father Owen Wynn, 26 Aug 1860, Leeds, St Ann (Cathedral), all children on census registered in Leeds with MMN Winn.

Jo  :)
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 July 23 13:05 BST (UK)
That’s  the Leeds one though, isn’t it, not the Salford/Manchester one. :-\
Are you thinking they could be the same person?
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 24 July 23 14:46 BST (UK)
Please, any help findindg:

Fenton Moore b. ~1833 Queens County, Ireland, married Joannah (sp?) Power in 1860 Salford.
They are listed in the 1861 census in Salford, but appear to have vanished after that.


GRO index for that marriage has Francis Moors & Joanna Power
Also on LancashireBMD
MOORS   Francis   
POWER   Joanna   
1860   Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Salford-Central/cathedral/marriages_1860-1863.html

Looks like it was definitely Francis who married Joanna

Marriage: 30 Sep 1860 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancs.


Franciscum Moore - Salford
Joannam Power - Salford
    Groom's Parents: Joannis Moore & Catharinae Moore
    Bride's Parents: Joannis Power & Catharinae Power
    Witness: Joanne Burke of Salford; Birgitta Whelan of Salford
    Married by: Petrus Canonicus Benoit Miss. Coadj.
    Register: Marriages 1856 - 1863, Page 255
    Source: Original Register at LRO Preston

Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 24 July 23 15:07 BST (UK)
That’s  the Leeds one though, isn’t it, not the Salford/Manchester one. :-\
Are you thinking they could be the same person?

There's a surprising number of Fenton / Finton Moores about
One in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1851


Denis Moore Head 36   b abt 1815 b Ireland
Ridget (sic) Wife 33   1818   b Ireland  (probably meant to be Bridget)
Mary Ann Moore Daughter   11   1840   b Ireland
Rose   Moore Daughter   5   1846   b Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Catharine   Moore Daughter 3 b abt1848   b Scotland
Anthony Moore Brother   Married      20   1831   b Ireland
Fenton Moore Nephew   Unmarried    20   1831   b Ireland

From ages this Fenton would be son of Denis and Anthony's older brother.
The Leeds Fenton has a mother born in Air (sic) Scotland. Maybe this is the same one.
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: xpress4 on Monday 24 July 23 21:22 BST (UK)
I realize it is a stretch, but when looking at the 1861 census for the family I see Fenton and Johanna are the same age. They are listed as Catherine's son and daughter and both married. My suspicion is they were married to each other and the census taker neglected to put "inlaw" by Johanna.

I also wondered if the person recording the wedding of "Franciscum Moore" and "Joannam Power" put Franciscum as a given name if it was the closest alternative to a Latin version of his name. If so, and that could be Fenton, Joanne BURKE of Salford was a witness at Fenton's marriage. Fenton's sister Oney/Ann Burke married John BURKE.

The Lan-OPC shows:

Marriage: 30 Sep 1860 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancashire, England
Franciscum Moore - Salford
Joannam Power - Salford
    Groom's Parents: Joannis Moore & Catharinae Moore
    Bride's Parents: Joannis Power & Catharinae Power
    Witness: Joanne Burke of Salford; Birgitta Whelan of Salford
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: xpress4 on Monday 24 July 23 21:24 BST (UK)
That’s  the Leeds one though, isn’t it, not the Salford/Manchester one. :-\
Are you thinking they could be the same person?

There's a surprising number of Fenton / Finton Moores about
One in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1851


Denis Moore Head 36   b abt 1815 b Ireland
Ridget (sic) Wife 33   1818   b Ireland  (probably meant to be Bridget)
Mary Ann Moore Daughter   11   1840   b Ireland
Rose   Moore Daughter   5   1846   b Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Catharine   Moore Daughter 3 b abt1848   b Scotland
Anthony Moore Brother   Married      20   1831   b Ireland
Fenton Moore Nephew   Unmarried    20   1831   b Ireland

From ages this Fenton would be son of Denis and Anthony's older brother.
The Leeds Fenton has a mother born in Air (sic) Scotland. Maybe this is the same one.

This could be. The Denis Moore is my 3x GGrandfather and the family I'm trying to tie the Salford group to. I don't know Denis' older brother's name. It appears Fenton in Salford's father was John.
Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: xpress4 on Monday 24 July 23 21:26 BST (UK)
Still don't know where Fenton ended up even if it wasn't Joanna Power he married though. Maybe the US or back to Ireland.

You would think Fenton would be unique, but the more you look, the more of them you find!   :(

Title: Re: Vanished?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 July 23 22:33 BST (UK)

You would think Fenton would be unique, but the more you look, the more of them you find!   :(

There is a marriage in 1863, St Wilfred’s, Hulme, Manchester
James Moore and Mary A Doran.
https://mlfhs.uk/databases/catholic-records is just an index but it shows James’ father as Fenton.
This would not be your Fenton but just another example.