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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: DORAN54 on Saturday 15 July 23 16:36 BST (UK)
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Hi could someone explain this punishment to me please
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I can't help with an explanation of this particular 'punishment' other than provide two pieces of background information.
King's Regulations (in this case this version published in 1912 (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044048604474&view=1up&seq=17)) are very specific about which minor punishments may be awarded (see paras 493 -507) and bounty boards are not mentioned. As stated in para 500 an officer is not permitted to introduce any other punishment not contained in the Regulations.
The only use of the term bounty at that time was the financial award made to soldiers who extended their service beyond their committed date. If the soldier subsequently changed his mind about extending his service he would be required to repay the bounty, or a proportion of it based on the additional time he had in fact served. If a bounty needed to be repaid then the calculation was done by the regimental pay office (for example, see KRs para 395). I can find no references to bounty boards in general.
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ok thank you very much for your reply
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Which country's army is this? Can you post a link to the record ?
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Irish national army . army 1922 census
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There was no Irish army at the time of the offence in 1913 so presumably he was in a British regiment at that time - have you been able to find a British army record for him?
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i haven't found other army records he is named as padraig in the 1922 army census but it is patrick
in other records
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I think he was probably 18402 in the Royal Irish Fusiliers. If so only the WW1 medal records have survived.
In 1913 the RIF had a Colour Sergeant Fluke (whose name appears on the "offence" record you posted).
The offence record is not a census record so I'm wondering where you found that?
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no i realised it wasn't the census after i posted reply . as i only took a snippet of the original post i'm having trouble finding it again i thought i had added it to my tree as well it's got to be there somewhere ::)
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oh god i'm such a twit the original post was for francis mortimer the padraig post is his brother ::)i'm so sorry
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Well at least I got the regiment right.
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you did thank you for your replys. Are there records for the irish army do you know
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I don't know anything about Irish Army records but this may be a good place to start: https://www.militaryarchives.ie/home
Regarding your original question about the punishment, Francis Mortimer was a British Army Reservist and so would have received an annual bounty payment. A report to the Bounty Board would presumably have put future bounty payments at risk. Perhaps it served as a warning about his future behaviour.
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oh okay i wonder if it had the desired effect. thank you for the link
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As you've probably seen, Francis deserted in October 1916.
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yes ::) :o