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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: lazytee on Sunday 09 July 23 12:27 BST (UK)
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Hi Rootschatters of Knarsdale!
Can anyone with local knowledge of Knarsdale advise me about three properties in that parish known in the 19th century as:
Barnstown Foot
Barnstown Head
Barns
Modern maps show Barns only. My Stephenson ancestors lived at these addresses and I am keen to know exactly where they were located. Are there any old maps which show them?
Regards to all,
Lazytee
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Could it be related to Burnstones? That is there on the tithe map of 1837, and on old OS maps.
When in the 19th century?
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This is Barnstown Foot mentioned as a Bus Stop:
https://findthestop.co.uk/stops/view/198092
There is also a Barnstown Foot / Head listed on this page:
https://namebooks.org.uk/page-image/?OSref=388&Page=X1&Image=709
Could it be related to Burnstones? That is there on the tithe map of 1837, and on old OS maps.
When in the 19th century?
It is not Burnstones although it may seem a match, it is not; They are 2 different places.
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Yes HistoricalGenealogy has found it:
going south along the minor road to where modern Barns is, Barnstown Foot was immediately adjacent to Barns the north, and Barnstown Head just a little further south.
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Yes HistoricalGenealogy has found it:
going south along the minor road to where modern Barns is, Barnstown Foot was immediately adjacent to Barns the north, and Barnstown Head just a little further south.
Then why didn’t you include the link?
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Maybe I just didn’t feel like it?
https://maps.nls.uk/view/132269198#zoom=5&lat=8563&lon=10755&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/132269198#zoom=5&lat=8563&lon=10755&layers=BT)
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Maybe I just didn’t feel like it?
https://maps.nls.uk/view/132269198#zoom=5&lat=8563&lon=10755&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/132269198#zoom=5&lat=8563&lon=10755&layers=BT)
Just asking (:
But either way, I was able to find a Mention of a Stephenson Family on Wikipedia’s Knarsdale Page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knarsdale
“The manor of Knarsdale was held in medieval times by the Swinburn family, and in 1313 Hugh de Swinburn was rector of Knarsdale. It was later held by the Wallis family, who sold it in 1730 to John Stephenson, a Newcastle merchant. One of the Stephenson family built Alston market cross. But in 1769 Knarsdale was sold to James Wallace, a distinguished lawyer. His son Thomas, for services to his country, was created Baron Wallace of Knarsdale. The family also owned Featherstone Castle, and Hodgson described Knarsdale Hall as having declined in importance — a gentleman's place of the 17th century now and for a long time since occupied by the farmer of the adjoining grounds... The garden walls have lost their trimness, the malt kilns and the brewhouse are gone. Today, however, the stone buildings on top of a high mound dominate the scene and are strongly built. The mullioned windows seem to have been inserted into an older hall.[2]”
Another mention:
https://www.thepeerage.com/p21154.htm
“John Stephenson is the son of Henry Stephenson.1 He married Elizabeth Bell.2
He lived at Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England.3 He held the office of Sheriff of Newcastle in 1728.1 He held the office of Alderman of Newcastle in 1748.1 He held the office of Mayor of Newcastle in 1750.1 He lived at Knarsdale Hall, EnglandG, which he had won in a poker game.1”
It mentions Knarsdale Hall. It is adjacent to Barns, Barnstown Foot, & Barnstown Head.
This is a street view of it:
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sgp/
Based on the map that AlanBoyd has provided and also on google maps, These are the buildings:
Knarsdale Hall
(https://i.ibb.co/7bhW778/IMG-0937.jpg)
Barns (House)
(https://i.ibb.co/FJrGcyM/IMG-0938.jpg)
Barns (House’s Barn)
(https://i.ibb.co/SPVkpHv/IMG-0939.jpg)
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Barnstown Head
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satellite view
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Where Barnstown Head is on the old OS map, the 1837 tithe map has a label Barnstownhead and an area transcribed as Barns Farm approx 20 acres, occupied by Robert Stephenson, owned by Revd. William Thompson.
There is also a label "Barns" nearby, approximately in the correct place, but this is only a small site labelled 'croft', occupier Edward Glendening, owners John and Robert Baxter.
This isn't the best tithe map I've ever seen and it does not have individual buildings drawn hence the uncertainty. I can't link or post an image because it is subscriber-only info.
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Many thanks to to you both for your very prompt and interesting replies and photographs.
Re:
1. Burnstones - this is a separate property marked on the 2,005 O.S. map OL43 (Hadrian's Wall) and not connected to my Stephensons.
2. The Northumberland (Old Series) CVIA.3 is excellent. It shows exactly what I want to know. I am familiar with this sort of map, but can never find the one I want. I have made a note of the number of the Knarsdale map for future reference.
3.The Wikepedia article - I had already found this page and noted the that the manor of Knarsdale had been acquired by a John Stephenson in 1730. But this was way before my Stephensons arrived at Barnstown Foot in the 1790s, probably coming from Edmundbyers, Co. Durham. There was, however, another Stephenson family already living in Knarsdale at that time, possibly related to my folk.
4.Regarding the tythe map of 1837, showing the occupant of Barns Farm as Robert Stephenson, he is the step son of my very distant cousin, umpteen times removed, Jane Morpeth (b. 1772 at Allendale). Jane can be found in the 1841 census with Robert, who is described as the head of the household.
Having found the answer to my question most satisfactorily, I will now close this topic. Many thanks again to you both.
Lazytee.