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I would be very grateful for any information on Ethel Fable.
I think she was a foundling, her birth was registered in Newark, Notts. In the 1939 register, Ethel Fable (born 27th August 1917), was a patient at the National Institutions for Persons Requiring Care and Custody, Whittington Hall, Old Whittington, Chesterfield. She is recorded (as were virtually all patients) as an Incapacitated Inmate.
The death of Ethel Fable, aged 43, was registered between July and September 1961 at Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Was she discharged before her death or did she die in hospital? The National Archives state that the records are held at Matlock.
Thanking you in anticipation
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What does it say on her Death Certificate?
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I'm still waiting for it
Being outside the UK and 1961 certificiates not being available for online ordering of PDF's makes things difficult.
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The birth certificate would indicate if she was a 'foundling'
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GRO website index does not show mothers maiden surname but freebmd shows it as Fable
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There is an entry for an Ethel Fable (Transcribed as Table on FindMyPast) living with 'grandparents' in 1921 in the right area that needs investigation
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Another grandchild in the household
Births Dec qtr 1918
Fable Horace mmn Fable
Newark 7b 729
and Ethels entry
Births Dec qtr 1917
Fable Ethel mmn Fable
Newark 7b 705
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The birth certificate would indicate if she was a 'foundling'
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GRO website index does not show mothers maiden surname but freebmd shows it as Fable
I am looking at nine similar births and have ordered a birth certificate but it hasn't appeared yet.
Thank you
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There is an entry for an Ethel Fable (Transcribed as Table on FindMyPast) living with 'grandparents' in 1921 in the right area that needs investigation
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Another grandchild in the household
Births Dec qtr 1918
Fable Horace mmn Fable
Newark 7b 729
and Ethels entry
Births Dec qtr 1917
Fable Ethel mmn Fable
Newark 7b 705
Interesting, that's the first hint that any of these nine births are related.
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Also mentioned with the same family
Birth Jun qtr 1914
FABLE Fred mmn Fable Newark 7b 982
Birth Sep qtr 1920
Fable Violet mmn Fable Newark 7b 996
ADDED Violet is still with them in 1939
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This is the family in 1911, by 1921 Elizabeth is Fable :-\
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW91-XXK
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It would appear we have a bit of a name change, re 1921 census. George Andrews married Ada FAVELL in 1903 Southwell. Her (Ada's) daughter Elizabeth birth
FAVELL, ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in SOUTHWELL NOTTS Volume 07B Page 465
Whilst Elizabeth records she is married I cannot find a marriage to a Fable
FAVELL, FRANK -
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 509
John
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It would appear we have a bit of a name change, re 1921 census. George Andrews married Ada FAVELL in 1903 Southwell. Her (Ada's) daughter Elizabeth birth
FAVELL, ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in SOUTHWELL NOTTS Volume 07B Page 465
Whilst Elizabeth records she is married I cannot find a marriage to a Fable
John
Thank you. Yes, the name changes are confusing, I found Elizabeth's sister was registered at birth as Fabell. Ada is Fable in the 1901 census while her daughters are Favell and are with thier grandparents but posing as daughters.
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A bit off course but you may not have these?
Baptism;
St Andrew, Eakring
02 Jan 1895 ELIZABETH Favell
12 Jun 1898 KATE Favell
Mother ADA, singlewoman
(FreeREG)
Trish :)
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A bit off course but you may not have these?
Baptism;
St Andrew, Eakring
02 Jan 1895 ELIZABETH Favell
12 Jun 1898 KATE Favell
Mother ADA, singlewoman
(FreeREG)
Trish :)
Thanks Trish. I had the births, but not the baptisms