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Title: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: Sinclair11 on Monday 26 June 23 17:36 BST (UK)
Hi all, I have just obtained a copy of my grandmother and grandfather marriage certificate, and for grandmothers name on it reads Millie Harbour otherwise Millicent Jones..why have 2 entries for one person.
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 26 June 23 20:42 BST (UK)
Had she been previously married?
Or she had an alias? Ie her ‘offical name’ was one but she was commonly known as the other.

Did she have a step father? And commonly known by his surname?
Or was she born illegitimately and then her mother married?

I am sure there are other possible scenarios
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: Sinclair11 on Monday 26 June 23 20:52 BST (UK)
Millie HARBOUR 1913
KNOWN AS MILLICENT JONES
children
MILLICENT PATRICIA 1932 BERNARD 1933 Died 1933
MILLIE HARBOUR 1913 KNOWN AS MILLICENT JONES
MARRIED JOSEPH CARTER SINCLAIR 1909 23JUNE 1935

Looking at the info…think she may have had children before she married.
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 June 23 20:58 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Is this Millie's birth registration on the index?

3rd Qrt 1913 Manchester
Millie Harbour    
Mother's maiden name Jones   
Ref 8d/ 425

Have you got a copy of her birth registration?

Monica
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: sandiep on Monday 26 June 23 21:06 BST (UK)
   HARBOUR, MILLIE       JONES 
GRO Reference: 1913  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 425

snap too late!!
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: Sinclair11 on Monday 26 June 23 21:07 BST (UK)
That’s my nexted  step, have got there marriage certificate, so I have a starting place.
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: Sinclair11 on Monday 26 June 23 21:09 BST (UK)
Yes that’s her details..going to order it…
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 June 23 21:27 BST (UK)
Did she provide a father's name on her marriage registration?

Monica
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: Sinclair11 on Monday 26 June 23 21:30 BST (UK)
George Henry Harbour..
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 June 23 21:45 BST (UK)
Don't know if you can access Ancestry. There is a family tree for this line here www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/165453177/person/412151112370/facts

Births to George Henry Harbour and Edith Jones include:

c. 1906  Edith Harbour or Jones
c. 1907 Arthur Harbour or Jones
1911 (died before census) Mary Elizabeth Harbour
1912 Doriene Harbour
1913 Millie Harbour

Mary Elizabeth, Doriene and Millie all show on GRO birth records as Harbour, mother's maiden name Jones.

1911 census for this them www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1H-QCP

Can't see a marriage for parents so far.

Monica
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 June 23 21:50 BST (UK)
That 1911 census entry on Family Search has some links to details added by a member.

They have included Millie's birth reg here https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/163256398?p=49543737&returnLabel=Henry George Harbour (GNTW-9RL)&returnUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familysearch.org%2Ftree%2Fperson%2Fmemories%2FGNTW-9RL

You need to copy the whole line starting from https....to 9RL  The link above only partially showing as a link  :-\

If you haven't used Family Search before, you need to register for a free account and then you can use the site and view details.

Monica
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: Sinclair11 on Monday 26 June 23 21:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for help and info, dad was born November 1935, Nana married June 1935, but had 2 children before getting married, could this be why using 2 surnames..
Title: Re: Two names on marriage Certificate
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 26 June 23 21:57 BST (UK)
I think it may be that Millie's parents were not married and she went by either surname at any time, Harbour or Jones.

Monica