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Title: Charles Terry
Post by: melody3baby on Saturday 03 June 23 21:53 BST (UK)
Can someone confirm or not my thoughts
Charles Terry married Julia Gregory in Nottingham in 1868.  Father Thomas Gregory.  I have census for 1891
Charles is 19 on marriage
Witness on certificate is Agnes.  Could be sister
My dilemma is
I have a census for 1861 with a Charles aged 12 and a sibling Agnes  showing them as son in law and daughter in law (wrong I think )
Do we think this the right one
Or any suggestions
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 03 June 23 22:01 BST (UK)
The term son & daughter in law was often used to describe stepchildren
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: melody3baby on Saturday 03 June 23 22:06 BST (UK)
I did think that
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 03 June 23 22:16 BST (UK)
Is the surname Terry or Terrey on the marriage cert?

Charles Terrey born 1848 Notts mmn Lowde
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 03 June 23 22:18 BST (UK)
1851 for Charles Terrey aged 2 - mother Agnes is a widow - plus 7mth old sister Agnes
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 June 23 22:20 BST (UK)
There's other Terrys on 1861 also described as inlaw - although no obvious parents/step-parents in sight! Here's 1851. Siblings match 1861

Colwick St, Nottingham

Agnes Terrey    35    b Yorkshire. Widow, dress maker
Mary Terrey   10    
Eliza Terrey   7    
Frances Terrey   4    
Charles Terrey    2    
Agnes Terrey   7 Mo    

This fits as there are also Smallwood children in the 1861 household

Agnes Terry, age 37, widow
Father Thomas Lowde, FWK

Thomas Smallwood, 37, widower, shoemaker
Father  Wiliam, Smallwood, trimmer
Marriage    12 Jul 1852,  St. John the Baptist, Beeston
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 03 June 23 22:21 BST (UK)
1841 - husband is William - not Thomas but there is a Mary Lowd in household
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 June 23 22:21 BST (UK)
Agnes Loud
William Terry

Marriage    23 Jan 1837, Derby, St Werburgh,

Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 June 23 22:23 BST (UK)
1841 - husband is William - not Thomas but there is a Mary Lowd in household

Thomas is I think the name of Charles Terry's father in law - Thomas Gregory is mentioned in the opening post. I read that as his father's name too at the start
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 June 23 22:27 BST (UK)
Mary Lowd - father Thomas, marries Charles Bell in 1841. Agnes Terry is a witness. Mary and Charles Bell witness Agnes' marriage to Thomas Smallwood in return. in 1881, nephew Charles Bell is with the Smallwoods
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: melody3baby on Sunday 04 June 23 09:07 BST (UK)
So the thinking is
Agnes loud marries William Terry in 1837
Has 5 children with William. Youngest 2months in 1851 and she is the head
Any death seen for William
Marries Thomas Smallwood
And when Charles marries Julia he uses his step fathers Christian name but real fathers surname?
On the previous page of the 1861 there is a Hannah something.  Could she be a grandmother?
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 04 June 23 09:51 BST (UK)
William Terry is a Frame Work Knitter on the 1837 Marriage on FreeREG.

Bapts;
St Barnabas, Nottingham
ELIZA Terry 11 Feb 1844, birth 09 Dec 1843 to William/Agnes, Mother nee Lane (must have been hard to read)
CHARLES Terrey 03 Feb 1850 to William/Agness, abode Colwick St, Father a Coal Merchant
AGNES ELIZABETH Terrey 16 Feb 1851 to William/Agnes, abode Colwick St, Father A FWK

When Fanny (Frances) married 1865 she named her Father William as a Coal Dealer
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 04 June 23 10:25 BST (UK)
I cant see a death for William Terry/Terrey but it is likely his Father was Joseph and Mother Frances.

Living near William/Agnes in 1841 Census + a son George born c 1821.

1851 George and family are near Agnes on Census.

George was bapt 22 Oct 1820 to Joseph/Frances (FreeREG)

Joseph TERREY married Frances MILLER 30 Jan 1815 Saint Peter, Nottingham (Anc.)

They also bapt;
WILLIAM 14 Jul 1816****
MART 07 Feb 1819
SOPHIA 27 Jun 1824
PETER 16 Oct 1825
HARRIETT 19 Nov 1826
ELIZABETH 01 Apr 1832
LEONARD 28 Jul 1833
(FreeREG)
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 04 June 23 20:10 BST (UK)
William Terry
Death Age    34
Burial             13 Oct 1850, St. Mary, Nottingham

Address looks like Colwick St

Can't find a registration

Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 05 June 23 01:18 BST (UK)
William Terry
Death Age    34
Burial             13 Oct 1850, St. Mary, Nottingham

Address looks like Colwick St

Can't find a registration


TERRY, WILLIAM       34 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 15  Page 391
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 05 June 23 08:09 BST (UK)
That death doesn;t appear to be showing on Ancestry at all
Title: Re: Charles Terry
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 05 June 23 14:51 BST (UK)
Colwick St seems to be a link.