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Title: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Thursday 01 June 23 16:22 BST (UK)
trying to find what happened to Ethel May Ball b 1897 st saviour channel islands on 1911 cencus shes living with her father William Ball b 1859 st hellier hes a widow no sign of either of them after 1911 Ethel may have a son called Joseph Maurice Connor but cant confirm this any help appreciated
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 June 23 17:42 BST (UK)
Where & when was Joseph Maurice Connor born?

Do you have his birth cert?

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-channel-islands-and-man/
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Thursday 01 June 23 20:49 BST (UK)
no its just on someone i came as match on dna im waiting for them to respond so that ones not definate confused shes not on 1921 unles she was in fprces but cant find her dad either
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 June 23 21:51 BST (UK)
In case you don't already have this

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/258226:61218
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 June 23 22:05 BST (UK)
She had the following siblings

William John Ball 1880
Florence 1882 
Mable 1884–1950
Edward 1887
Emily Grace 1889
Ada Gertrude 1892
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: amondg on Friday 02 June 23 06:47 BST (UK)
There is a citizenship application for a Ethel May Connor born 1 September 1896 born Channel Islands (396652) New York, citizenship granted 1945.

She was formerly Ethel May Pearce when she married Joseph Connor New York 27 February 1925 (license was issued 25th February Pearce/Connors # 5176)
Had son Joseph 31 January 1927 New York
Had son William 22 August 1929 New York

States she arrived 2 September 1921
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Possible first marriage to Cecil J Pearce 1916 registered Chelsea.

Her sisters Emily and Ada were both servants in London/Middlesex 1921 so it is likely she followed them there for work.
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Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: amondg on Friday 02 June 23 07:09 BST (UK)
I believe it is her, arriving passenger list says her nearest relative is Mrs. Fisher of 3 Sutherland Place Pimlico  - arrival date 1 September 1921
She speaks both English and French

Her sister Florence Maud married ? Fisher  she died 1985.

Notes need to find out what happened to Cecil J Pearce
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: softly softly on Friday 02 June 23 07:20 BST (UK)
Well found amondg, a possible death

PRIVATE
CECIL JOHN PEARCE
Service Number: 43485
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Norfolk Regiment

8th Bn.

Date of Death
Died 17 November 1916

Age 20 years old

Buried or commemorated at
ALBERT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

I. Q. 16.

France

Commonwealth War Graves Commission - Headstone Placeholder
Country of Service
United Kingdom
Additional Info
Son of Mr. and Mrs. H. W. Pearce, of 100, Glebe Rd., Norwich.

John
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Friday 02 June 23 07:32 BST (UK)
oh my god thats her well done everyone great info thats made my morning i was just abt go for walk thought id check on here ill be skipping round village Thank you lovely morning here in devon uk
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: amondg on Friday 02 June 23 07:41 BST (UK)
1930 census New York
Joseph Connor 50 born Massachusetts father born Irish Free State, mother born New York/ chauffeur
Ethel 35 born England
Robert  Connor 3 (she says he is Joseph 1945 so Robert Joseph) born New York
Billie  age 0  born New York  (William E)
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I forgot to mention when she made her application for citizenship she was a widow.

1950 census New York
Harry Alexander 55  Packer U S Defense Department
Ethel Alexander 51
Robert J Connor 23  step son
William E 21   step son

It's likely she died as Ethel Alexander

Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Friday 02 June 23 07:41 BST (UK)
i have just found her baptism /birth 1 sep 1896 definately her great find Amondg thank you
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: softly softly on Friday 02 June 23 08:04 BST (UK)
Her death?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVV6-64RN

John
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Friday 02 June 23 09:25 BST (UK)
think i found death William E Connor  2017 • Wall, Monmouth, New Jersey, USA think he got married to Henrietta had 3 children cant find anything on  his brother Robert Joseph unless he was using his middle name
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Friday 02 June 23 09:27 BST (UK)
that death looks promising John thank you its not in area shes living in 1950 not sure how far that is from new york
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Wednesday 11 October 23 07:52 BST (UK)
i wonder if she Married Harry Alexander cant find marriage for them
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 11 October 23 08:35 BST (UK)
Long shot but there is a Dr. Robert Joseph Connor DOB 31 January 1927 died 1976 in Huntington NY.

It's the same date of birth
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Friday 13 October 23 17:49 BST (UK)
that looks like Ethels son he was born Robert but also used name Joseph thanks for that info ill check it out Ethel ended up with Harry Alexander as yet cand find marriage for them
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Thursday 22 February 24 07:34 GMT (UK)
i think your correct Amondg i have him down as Joseph think hes Robert Joseph i need get bigger shovel do more digging thank you
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Sunday 11 May 25 20:04 BST (UK)
Think Ethel had a son but can find a birth for him she arrived on her own in new york sep 1921 not sure if she left after 1921 cencus as i cant find her on it think child was born between 1912 and 1916 ?
Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 17 May 25 01:11 BST (UK)
Ethel's passenger list doesn't seem to show any children with her.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J62N-D3G?lang=en

In case you haven't seen it already, her & Joseph's marriage certificate is here - https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/9194484 

And her petition for naturalization is here - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89HN-F976-B?view=fullText&keywords=Ethel%20May%20Pearce&lang=en

Title: Re: Ethel May Ball 1896 st saviour
Post by: raa on Sunday 18 May 25 08:11 BST (UK)
brilliant thank you i didnt have marriage cert right result think she may have had son after recent info think maybe left in channel islands born under name Ball or Pearce between 1911-1916 father Cecil J Pearce thanks everyone