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Title: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: griffo99 on Sunday 28 May 23 04:55 BST (UK)
Hello, I'm hoping someone will be able to help me out with finding the parents of Stephen Shelley, 1782-1849, Sussex.  He married Sarah Hall in 1818. I only have access to ancestry.com and Family search and between them they've thoroughly confused me with all the Benjamins, especially ones married to Sarahs! According to Familysearch, Stephen's father was Benjamin, 1730-1811, who married a Sarah. Ancestry tells me Stephen's grandfather, also Benjamin, married Anne (maybe Thomas) or Sarah. I think I've got so mixed up now that I'm not sure that I've got anything right. Help appreciated, thank you!
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 28 May 23 07:56 BST (UK)
Did the Benjamin who married Anne - come from Buxted,Sussex ?
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: griffo99 on Sunday 28 May 23 08:05 BST (UK)
Benjamin 1730-1811 was from Buxted, I have him married to Sarah?. His father was another Benjamin married to Anne?, sorry, no dates. I think it's a fair guess that both these Benjamin Shelleys were from Buxted.
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 28 May 23 09:02 BST (UK)
both from Buxted

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sexe=&nom=shelley&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=benjamin&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1730&to=1730&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: griffo99 on Sunday 28 May 23 09:29 BST (UK)
Thank you!
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 28 May 23 10:03 BST (UK)
I am not sure about that Tree as it does not have actual dates to back up info.

And also refers to the US???

Born 27 September 1720 - Raynham, Bristol, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British Colonial America
Deceased 11 August 1779 - Raynham, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States, aged 58 years old


From FreeREG, taken from Parish Registers

St Margaret the Queen, Buxted, Sussex

Bapts

BENJAMIN Shelley 12 Nov 1730
Parents BENJAMIN/ANNE
Sibings bapts;
REBECCA/SARAH Shelly 21 Dec 1725 (buried see below)
ANNE Shelley18 Nov 1726
SARAH Shelley 30 Jan 1728/29
JOSEPH Shelly 07 Sep 1733
JOHN Shelly 10 Sep 1738

Burials;
REBECCA Shelly 21 Dec 1725 Daug of BENJ. (2 records for this other has Daug of Benjamin/Anne)
SARAH Shelly 21 Dec 1725, Daug of BENJ. (ditto, 2 records)
MARY Shelley 24 Mar 1766
BENJAMIN Shelley 04 Jan 1776****
ANNE Shelley 03 Apr 1777****
JONATHAN Shelley 10 Feb 1779
THOMAS Shelley 19 Mar 1826 age 40

Marriages;
ANNE Shelley, spinster, to Alexander VINAL 21 Apr 1754 (maybe Anne born 1726)

I will be back soon to add more just preparing dinner :)

EDIT added more.
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 28 May 23 11:28 BST (UK)
Death Reg;
SHELLEY, STEPHEN age 66 
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in HAILSHAM  Volume 07  Page 433
(born c 1783)

The only bapt I can see for Stephen is 11 Oct 1789 Steyning, Mother SARAH
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 May 23 15:18 BST (UK)
I think that Trish probably has the correct baptism for Stephen.

Also a baptism for a John Shelley at Steyning on 24 Mar 1776 with mother Sarah Shelley.

There is a burial at Steyning for a Sarah Shelley on 22 Apr 1807 age 50.
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 28 May 23 16:44 BST (UK)
There is a bastardy bond for Sarah and her child recorded in this database:

https://www.sussexrecordsociety.org/dbs/pl/getrecord/20177/

It names the putative father.

The Benjamin Shelley who died in 1811 left a will, but he does not name a son Stephen - only a daughter Ann Page.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SRD-97?i=196&cat=685691

Nell
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: griffo99 on Sunday 28 May 23 21:18 BST (UK)
Thank you to everyone, you've all been most helpful, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Parents/grandparents of Stephen Shelley, Sussex.
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 16 June 23 17:20 BST (UK)
I am not sure about that Tree as it does not have actual dates to back up info.

And also refers to the US???

Born 27 September 1720 - Raynham, Bristol, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British Colonial America
Deceased 11 August 1779 - Raynham, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States, aged 58 years old


It would appear that geneanet trees are as dubious as those on Anc then Trish  ;D