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Title: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Mark Newman on Thursday 08 September 05 18:39 BST (UK)
Hi

Anyone able to find Thornton Chapman, aged about 11, on the 1851 census.

Sorry I have so little info.

Many thanks,

Mark Newman
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Iria on Friday 09 September 05 00:37 BST (UK)
Hi Mark

I couldn't Find Thornton Chapman on the 1851 Census..But I was Wondering If You Had Any Of This Information

Birth/Bap

Thornton Chapman
b 01 Aug 1840
c 13 Jan 1841 St Martin In The Field Westminster
John Chapman
Susan Ann


1861 Census

??? Ter Islington London

Hanson Stuchbery Head  57 Bank Clerk Buckhamshire
Caroline                 Wife   59                   Middlesex
Fanny                     Dau    26                   Middlesex
Maria                       Dau   21                   Middlesex
Thornton Chapman Vistor 21  Tailor       London Middlesex
Ann M Kirby  Servent                               


1871 Census

3 Groae? Cottages Highgate St Micheal London

Elizabeth Goodwin and Family..

Also at the Address

Thornton Chapman Vistor 31 Occ Clerk London


Marriage 1872

September Qrt Pancras

Thornton Chapman to either  Sarah Constable or Alice Warren


Death

Thornton Chapman
September Qrt 1877
Age 36
Islington London


Hope this Helps In Some Way

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Mark Newman on Friday 09 September 05 18:31 BST (UK)
Hi

I did have that info, but thanks for doing that. Much appreciated. I am trying to find more info on his parents by looking at the 1841 or 1851 census. If only they didn't live in London!

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Biker on Saturday 28 January 06 15:28 GMT (UK)
Hello Mark

I'm doing a bit of housekeeping and noticed this older request.  Wondering if you are still looking for anything on this topic or you have resolved it in the meantime?

If we don't hear from you in a while, I'll assume the latter and move it to the 'completed' section.

Regards
Biker
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Mark Newman on Saturday 28 January 06 18:06 GMT (UK)
No, still searching for more info on Thornton Chapman. I can't find him at all on the 1851 census.
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Biker on Thursday 16 November 06 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hello

Not 1851 but ...

1841 - Worth St, Edgware Rd, Marylebone

John Chapman 40 Glover?
Susan 25
William 3
Thornton 3 months
Louisa Warner? 16 Servant

all born out of county

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Biker
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Mark Newman on Thursday 16 November 06 22:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: CharlieH on Sunday 27 November 11 22:57 GMT (UK)
Hello Mark.
This conversation was years ago, I know, but I've just come across it and I know you are still active on Rootschat.
Thornton was my Great Great uncle. I can go back to his 3g Grandfather Thomas Chapman 1685 - 1781 if you are still interested.

Where do you fit in?

Best regards

Charles Home
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Mark Newman on Monday 28 November 11 11:20 GMT (UK)
This was my mother-in-law's family tree. Would be fascinated to hear more, I certainly didn't get that far back with the Chapmans. If I remember rightly Thornton Chapman had a daughter Alice Thornton Chapman whose son Bernard Thornton Cole was my mother-in-law's father!

Would be happy to send you what I have.
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: CharlieH on Monday 28 November 11 21:12 GMT (UK)
Yes, I read your thread about Alice and assumed she was a daughter. But I could prove no links as Thornton had died before the next census and I couldn't find Sarah amongst all the others. I wonder how and why Thornton died so young.

Anyway here is what I have, starting at the earliest point:


Thomas Chapman, b. abt 1685, (Brewer) d. abt 1781, m. Elizabeth Tyson
   1. Tyson Chapman, b. abt 1714, (Brewer) d. 26 Apr 1799, m. Elizabeth Blandy
      2. Thomas Chapman, b. abt 1748, (Wine Merchant) d. 18 Jan 1825, m. 11 Jun 1772 Sarah La Pierre
         3. John Isaac Chapman, b. 21 Feb 1773, (Major, 14th Light Dragoons) d. Jan 1818, m. Elizabeth Dawes
            4. John Chapman, b. 1801, (Merchant) d. 07 May 1848, m. Susan Ann Morris
               5. Emily Chapman, b. 22 Feb 1835, d. 26 Mar 1918, m. May 1861 Henry Bagley
                  6. Annie Florence Bagley, b. Aug 1863, d. Y, m. 27 Aug 1891 Markham Aldridge Evelegh
               5. John (Jack) Blandy Chapman, b. 1836, (Merchant Navy) d. 04 Jan 1888, m. Nov 1881 Emily Moule NICHOLSON
               5. William Edward Chapman, b. 07 Jun 1838, (Clergy) d. 16 Dec 1914, m.(1) 26 May 1864 Maria Strachan , m.(2) 07 Jan 1888 Margaret Ann Fisher
                  6. Constance Mary Chapman, b. 26 Jul 1889, d. 28 Aug 1978
                  6. Edward Frederick Chapman, b. 15 Mar 1893, d. 02 Jan 1969, m. 03 Jul 1924 Margaret Elizabeth Beatrice Goddard
                  6. Hilda Margaret Chapman, b. 25 Mar 1904, d. 11 Feb 1951
               5. Thornton Chapman, b. 11 Aug 1840, (Clerk) d. 06 Aug 1877, m. 06 Aug 1872 Sarah Constable
               5. Morris Chapman, b. 05 Nov 1842, (Indian Survey Dept) d. 24 May 1879 (at sea off India), m. 20 Jan 1875 Annie Kate Gregg
                  6. Dora (Daisy) Isabelle D'Espaigne Chapman, b. 1876, d. 13 Aug 1913
               5. Marmaduke Chapman, b. 06 Jan 1848, d. 07 Sep 1869 in Calcutta

That's it. I would love to get yours.

Regards
Charles
Title: Re: Thornton Chapman 1851 census
Post by: Mark Newman on Monday 28 November 11 23:31 GMT (UK)
I have:

John Chapman Clerk, died before 1872. Married Susan Ann. They had issue:
1.   Thornton Chapman b.1 Aug 1840, chr.13 Jan 1841 St Martin-in-the-Fields, Westminster, London. Married Highgate Congregational Church, St Pancras, Middlesex 6 Aug 1872 Sarah Constable (b.1846 St John’s, Paddington, London). Clerk at time of marriage. Both living at 4 Grove Place, Highgate, London at time of marriage, the home of Sarah’s father George Constable. He died 1877 Islington, London. After his death Sarah Chapman lived 7 Southwood Lane, Hornsey, Middlesex 1881, 9 Agincourt Road, Hampstead, London 1891 and 16 Parliament Hills, Hampstead, London 1901. She is a Prepatory School Schoolmistress 1881 and Schoolmistress 1891. They have issue:
a.   Emily Eliza Chapman b.1873 Islington, London. School Governess 1901, living with mother in Hampstead, London.
b.   Alice Thornton Chapman b.1874 Islington, London. Adopted by Catherine and Georgina Shaw following her father’s death.
c.   Annie May Chapman b.1876 Islington, London. Married Hampstead district 1897 Reginald Campbell or Charles Gilfillan.



Emma Morris, who lives with Sarah Constable Chapman as an ‘Aunt’ in 1881/1891/1901 lives with an Emily Chapman in 1861.

Details:
Emily bapt 5 Apr 1835 St Dunstan in the West, dau of John glover and Susan Ann of Fleet Street


Emily Chapman b.1834 London. Living 10 Montpelier Crescent, Brighton, Sussex in 1861 as Schoolmistress. She is unmarried. Living with her are aunts Emma (b.1817 London) and Ann J Morris (b.1816 London), both born London, both Schoolmistresses. Living with 6 pupils and 3 servants.

In 1871 Emily Chapman has married (19 Jun 1861 St Nicholas, Brighton) Henry Bagley, a Schoolmaster b.1822 Tarvin, Cheshire and they live at 3 Belmont, Dyke Road, Hove, Sussex with daughter Annie F Bagley b.1864 Brighton. Ann Morris still lives with them. They still live there 1881 with Ann Morris but daughter not with them.

In 1891 they live at 28 Essex Road, Watford, Hertfordshire and Henry Bagley is retired. Their daughter, now a Governess, is living with them again.

In 1901 Emily is widowed and living alone ‘living on own means’ in 2 rooms at 8 Derby Road, Watford, Hertfordshire.