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Title: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: ladymerle1 on Wednesday 17 May 23 15:24 BST (UK)
I am trying to find more information about my 3xGGrandparents
John Jones b 1795 Penrhyncoch, Llanbadarnfawr and Elisabeth Jones b 1796 Lovegrove, Llanbadarnfawr
Their marriage was 12 Dec 1822
I cannot find their births nor their deaths, but I have census for widow Elisabeth for 1851 and 1871

Any help would be much appreciated

Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth marriage Llanbadarn Fawr
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Wednesday 17 May 23 15:36 BST (UK)
Could you please provide more information, such as:

- When and where were their children baptised? What were their names (for naming patterns)?
- A link to the censuses in which they appear.

With a name as common as Jones, the more information the better!

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: ladymerle1 on Wednesday 17 May 23 16:01 BST (UK)
Traced son Thomas baptised 27;Dec 1828 atSilian
Cannot trace siblings Mary b1823 (from c 1851)
Or William 1835 (from c 1871)
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 17 May 23 17:04 BST (UK)

I cannot find their births nor their deaths, but I have census for widow Elisabeth for 1851 and 1871


Could you please give census details including reference numbers
...

I am trying to find more information about my 3xGGrandparents
John Jones b 1795 Penrhyncoch, Llanbadarnfawr and Elisabeth Jones b 1796 Lovegrove, Llanbadarnfawr

How do you know Johns place of birth if he died before the 1851 census and you have not located a baptism for him  :-\
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: jonwarrn on Wednesday 17 May 23 21:15 BST (UK)
Might be the family in 1851 :-\
Piece 2486 folio 324 page 8
Elisabeth Jones Head Widow 55 Alms woman
Mary Jones Daur 28
Thomas Jones Son 23
William Jones Son 16 ?
William Jones Grandson 3
John James Lodger 21
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGC1-DFW

1822 marriage at Llanbadarn Fawr was witnessed by John Davies, Edward Jones
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 17 May 23 21:29 BST (UK)
1881

Piece 5449, folio 87, p5
Address: Glansilo, Penrhyncoch

Elizabeth Jones 86, widow, midwife, b Llanbadarnfawr
Mary Jones  18, married, granddaughter in law, ag lab's wife b Pembs (not known)
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 17 May 23 21:35 BST (UK)
1861 - Penrhyncoch

Piece 4200, folio 61, p 15

Elizabeth Jones    66    widow, housekeeper, b parish of Llanbadarnfawr
William Jones    12    Grandson b Liverpool
John Isaac         20    Lodger
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 17 May 23 21:42 BST (UK)
Possible deaths

Q1 1883 aged 86. Matching burial in Llanbadarnfawr, 25 Jan 1883 aged 87. Address Cefnllwyd
Death notice states this is near Penrhyncoch: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3043032/3043036/70/%22elizabeth%20jones%22%20AND%20cefnllwyd

Q3 1886 aged 92
Q4 1886 aged 93
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 May 23 08:36 BST (UK)
Well done, Mabel.
Has ladymerle got them in 1841?
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: ladymerle1 on Thursday 18 May 23 08:38 BST (UK)
Can’t find them in c 1840
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 May 23 08:56 BST (UK)
Traced son Thomas baptised 27;Dec 1828 at Silian

Father John a Shopkeeper on that one

Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Thursday 18 May 23 13:59 BST (UK)
Traced son Thomas baptised 27;Dec 1828 at Silian

Father John a Shopkeeper on that one

Also a Henry Jones baptised on 14th June 1840 in Silian to John Jones, shopkeeper, and Elizabeth, so this could be a different family.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 May 23 14:53 BST (UK)
Can ladymerle give us more info about who she is following in the next generation, is it Thomas?
It might be easier to start from there!
Title: Re: John Jones & Elisabeth Jones
Post by: ladymerle1 on Friday 19 May 23 00:57 BST (UK)
Yea Thomas Jones married Hannah Jones.