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Title: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: geordiesue on Tuesday 09 May 23 14:20 BST (UK)
Hi I wondered if anyone could help me. I`m looking for a Thomas Evans born abt 1853 and according to the census was born in Nortley in Wales. I cant seem to find any place name by that nor anything similar.
Thomas married Martha Cummings in Gateshead, Durham in 1887. Any help would be much appreciated

Susan
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Tuesday 09 May 23 14:31 BST (UK)
Is it Wales, Nortley or Wales (North) for his birthplace on the 1901 census?

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 09 May 23 14:38 BST (UK)
Agreed = "Wales (North)" ie bracketed
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Tuesday 09 May 23 14:41 BST (UK)
From what I can see, there is only 1 Wales-born Thomas Evans born c.1854 who appears in Boldon, South Shields in the decades preceding the 1891 census, when Thomas is living there with his wife. This Thomas is the son of Edward and Elizabeth Evans. His occupation in 1881 matches that of 1891. The marriage certificate would confirm whether this is indeed the Thomas whom you are researching.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: geordiesue on Tuesday 09 May 23 15:19 BST (UK)
Agreed = "Wales (North)" ie bracketed

Hi Queenie on ancestry 1901 it has Nortley, Wales

Susan
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Tuesday 09 May 23 15:23 BST (UK)
Agreed = "Wales (North)" ie bracketed

Hi Queenie on ancestry 1901 it has Nortley, Wales

Susan

Hanes teulu and I think it is actually "Wales (North)." Are you looking at the original or just a transcription?

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: geordiesue on Tuesday 09 May 23 15:34 BST (UK)
Agreed = "Wales (North)" ie bracketed

Hi Queenie on ancestry 1901 it has Nortley, Wales

Susan

Hanes teulu and I think it is actually "Wales (North)." Are you looking at the original or just a transcription?

Queenie  :)


I`ve looked at both and the transcription does say Nortley and the original did look the same but now Ive put my glasses on the hand on the original looks like it could be north but with a , at the end of the h on North  ;D Thank you queenie. Im going to check out Edward Evans family as it does look promising' Thank you for your help

Susan
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 09 May 23 15:49 BST (UK)
1861 census, if parents are Edward and Elizabeth then this might be your man.

Piece   5018
Folio   90
Page number   12

EVANS, SARAH       ELLIS 
GRO Reference: 1851  D Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 244

EVANS, THOMAS       ELLIS 
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 11B  Page 232

EVANS, HANNAH  MARIA     ELLIS 
GRO Reference: 1858  S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION  Volume 10A

John
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 09 May 23 15:55 BST (UK)
Just a thought.

Northop  Holywell reg district

Flintshire

John
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 09 May 23 16:04 BST (UK)
The Elizabeth E Evans aged 5/12 months in 1901 census is

Elizabeth Ellis Evans
Gender   Female
Birth Date   1 Nov 1900
Baptism Date   6 Dec 1900
Baptism Place   Eighton-Banks, Durham, England
Father   
Thomas Evans
Mother   
Martha

John

added.
Name:   Elizabeth E Evans
Registration Date:   Apr 1919
[May 1919]
[Jun 1919]
Registration Quarter:   Apr-May-Jun
Registration District:   Morpeth
Inferred County:   Northumberland
Spouse:   James Mcgee
Volume Number:   10b
Page Number:   1088

Name:   Elizabeth McGee
Death Age:   73
Birth Date:   1 Nov 1900
Registration Date:   Jul 1974
[Aug 1974]
[Sep 1974]
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District:   Northumberland Central
Inferred County:   Northumberland
Volume:   1
Page:   1588
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 09 May 23 17:00 BST (UK)
Taking the 1901 census, children

James  mq 1883 Born as James Cummings mmn Bacon
Harriet J(James) Evans born mq 1888mmn Bacon
Thomas Evans sq 1889 mmn Cummings
Edward Evans sq 1893 mmn Cummings
Robert Evans sq 1895 mmn Bacon
Stephen Evans dq 1897 mmn Bacon
Elizabeth Evans dq 1900 mmn Bacon

Possible 1st Marriage of Martha
Marriages Dec 1882   
Bacon    Martha Ann        Houghton    10a   673    
CUMMINGS    James        Houghton    10a   673    

John
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 09 May 23 17:21 BST (UK)
1911 census has North Wales for Thomas.   ;)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMT-K2Z
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 09 May 23 18:48 BST (UK)
1911 census has North Wales for Thomas.   ;)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMT-K2Z

Recorded on Anc* as surname ERANS

John
Title: Re: Thomas Evans born 1853 in Nortley Wales?
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 09 May 23 18:51 BST (UK)
Possibly Thomas's death as Martha is a widow in 1921

Deaths Sep 1918 
Evans    Thomas    69    Morpeth    10b   522

John