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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Little Nell on Sunday 07 May 23 16:14 BST (UK)
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Attached is the register entry for a death on Arran in 1860.
Unfortunately it does not give me the name of the husband and the name of her mother is difficult to read exactly. I've played around with some settings but haven't managed to make it any clearer :(
The name of the informant has also got me scratching my head.
Please can anyone help reading either or both of them?
Thanks
Nell
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Mary MS McKinnon ?
Add - or, for clarity, as it's written:
Mary Downie
maiden name
McKinnon
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John Cook, a journeyman mason, married Janet Downie in Kilbride (Arran) 2-1-1833.
Archibald McKinnon married Janet Cook in Kilbride (Arran) in 1858.
I think the informant is "Archd" McKinnon.
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I think the informant is "Archd" McKinnon.
The informant is the son in law, but I can't see that last name looking like "McKinnon".
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I'm also struggling with the son in law.
The entry on the marriage cert in 1858 that GR2 mentions has Janet Cook as a Spinster, aged 25.
Parents are given as John Cook, Mason and Janet Cook, maiden name Downie.
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McGregor?
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Could this be the family (see GR2's post#2)
1841
Kyleshill Street, Stevenson, Ayr
John Cook, 30, Mason , b Scotland
Janet, 30, b. Scotland
Janet, 8. b.Scotland
Catherine, 6, b Scotland
John, 4, b Ayrshire
Mary, under 1, b Ayrshire
Mary Ballantine, 70, b. Scotland
1851
Nicol Street, Kilbride, Lamlash, Bute
John Cook, 43, Mason journeyman, b Bute
Janet, wife, 44, b Bute
Catherine, d, 15 , b. Kilbride
John, s, 13, mason apprentice, b. -d-
Mary, d, 10, scholar, b. Stevenston, Ayrshire
Elizabeth. d, 8, b. Kilbride
Margaret, d, 5. b -do-
Gadget
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Son in Law Montgomery ? Registrar Archd or Alex Mc Gregor ?
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Marriage of daughter Catharine/Catherine to Donald Stewart
Kilbride, December ?? 1861
Catharine Cook, 25,spinster, domestic servant, Lamlash
Parents - John Cook, mason and Janet Cook, maiden name Downie, (deceased)
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The only baptism that looks at all possible for Janet ( d. 1860 is ...
Kilmory, Buteshire
14 May 1804 Janet Downie d of Donald Downie and Mary MacKenzie
.... no McKinnon (variations) but not all baptisms are recorded .
Also a marriage for Donald Downie and Mary MacKenzie, Kilmory, 1799. No Downie/McKinnon marriage found so far.
Gadget
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Thank you everyone for looking at this.
I had the son-in-law part worked out, but the name defeated me. I've spent a few hours (and some SP credits) pursuing this angle. If the lady concerned was Janet Downie who married John Cook, then at the date of her death she only had one son-in-law and that was Archibald McKinnon. I can just about see how it could be Archibald or an abbreviation, but the rest of it is tricky.
I think this Janet is the person I was looking for, but her mother's maiden name as shown on the certificate is a small negative :-\
Nell
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I am still sure the signature is Archd McKinnon. It looks different from the other McKinnon as that was written by the registrar and Archd McKinnon is the informant's signature.
Don't worry too much about the inconsistency in the mother's maiden name. It is only as good as the informant knows and you often see errors like that where the informant is wrong about earlier generations.
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Late to the party, but I agree with GR2.
The first name is definitely Archd. The superscript d is very small.
For the surname, you have Mc, then a gap, then a very elaborate capital K, with a ‘kick’ descending below the line.
For the rest of the name, you have to appreciate that what looks like a tail descending below the line is actually part of the looped top of the L from Son in Law in the line below, but part of the pen-stroke is missing. With your mind's eye provide the missing part of that loop, and you will see how the rest of the surname in the line above could easily be written ...innon.
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Thank you for those insights, a great help.
Nell