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Oops...Member found it was her mistake! Post removed! :)
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How about going forward on the census if you haven't already done so
LM
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" all of my reseach until now points to her name being Maryann "Mary" "
What is the information that records mother as Maryann/Mary?
When was 1838 birth registered? Who was the informant? What occupation or father?
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Do you have Caroline's marriage certificate - does she give a father's name?
Secondly, are you certain you have the correct birth for Caroline? You seem surprised that the family is in Kent - where were you expecting them to be?
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STEVENS, CAROLINE
Mother's maiden surname: MANNING
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in WESTBURY UPON SEVERN UNION Volume 11 Page 445
This is more likely her birth. She says she was born in Gloucestershire.
Debra :)
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Her baptism was 22 July 1838 at Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, daughter of Robert and Mary. Robert is a collier, abode Harry Hill. Perhaps this is it, although this says it opened in 1880.
https://www.mindat.org/loc-378093.html
Debra :)
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This is probably her mother's death.
Churchyard of Drybrook Holy Trinity, Forest of Dean
Mary Ann STEVENS
Aged 34
Buried 14 Sep 1842
Abode Harry Hill
STEVENS, MARY ANN
Aged 34
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in WESTBURY UNION Volume 11 Page 345
Debra :)
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Caroline Stevens bp.22/7/1838 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, dau. of Robert, collier, and Mary.
Robert Stevens married Maryanne Manning 19/11/1832 Abenhall, Gloucestershire, witnesses George Manning and Emma Manning.
Annette
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Was she definitely born in England? There's this family in Amesbury (Wilts) in 1841
Robert Stephens 35 R ? ? Drill sergeant b Ireland
Mary Ann Stephens 35 not born in county
Latitia Stephens 8 b Ireland
Eliza Stephens 7 not born in county
Caroline Stephens 4 b Ireland
Charlotte Stephens 3 b Ireland
William Stephens 1 b Wilts
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Re 1841 census in previous reply
Birth reg for son William shows him as William St Ledger Stephens b Dec qtr 1839 Amesbury mmn was Reynolds so different family
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But if the Kent birth cert is incorrect, how do we know her mmn is Manning?
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I assumed that Caroline's marriage cert named her father as Robert and that led to the census and then to the baptism and marriage of Robert STEVENS and Mary Anne MANNING in 1832. I can see at least one person with an Ancestry tree who claims to have all certificates but has not uploaded them.
Debra :)
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Robert is a collier, abode Harry Hill. Perhaps this is it, although this says it opened in 1880.
https://www.mindat.org/loc-378093.html
Debra :)
Worked this out with the help of Wiki, Harry Hill = Harrow Hill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrow_Hill,_Gloucestershire
Robert and Mary may have lost a child in 1834 named Maria. She was buried on 28 Nov aged 10 weeks, abode Harrow Hill.
Debra :)