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Title: Susannah Moizer
Post by: riannisuileabhain on Saturday 22 April 23 20:48 BST (UK)
Hi all looking for help finding information on Susannah Moizer/Motzer/etc who was born circa 1840 and married Samuel Taylor in 1859 (picture below) in St. Nicholas Church, Liverpool

Susannah notes her father as James Moizer and a shipsmith ??? .

When searching for a birth/census record of her pre marriage i cant seem to find any record of a James Moizer :-\

There is one Moizer family in liverpool with a daughter Susannah but her parents are Nicholas and Susan :-\ so im a bit stumped. im unfamilar with UK records so if anyone has any advice it would be appreciated. thank you :)
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: heywood on Saturday 22 April 23 21:29 BST (UK)
Is this the one you have?

1851 2182 /493/44

Susanna Moizer 32 yrs widow
Susanna 10 yrs b Liverpool
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: heywood on Saturday 22 April 23 21:47 BST (UK)
In 1841, they are with Nicholas as you say.

GRO shows Susanna Moizer b 1840 mmn Reynolds.

There is a marriage 1838 - Nicholas Moizer and Susanna Reynolds
(Morger on Anc.)

His father is James.
There is also a death for Nicholas - 1850.

Perhaps Susanna gave her grandfather’s name on her marriage.

There is a possible James at 1851 2178 /322/21
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 23 April 23 10:22 BST (UK)
"MOIZER-July 19, at 33, Stirling-street, Kirkdale, in his 78th year, Mr. James Moizer"

Liverpool Albion (and other papers), 25 July 1864
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: riannisuileabhain on Sunday 23 April 23 21:25 BST (UK)
Yes I have info on Nicholas/Susanna and think it may make sense that its the same family although that James Moizer is consistently noted as a "wheelwright" as opposed to whatever is written on Susanna's marriage cert so im not sure :-\
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: heywood on Sunday 23 April 23 22:08 BST (UK)
The certificate shows her father as a ‘Shipsmith’.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=319178.0

On his marriage, Nicholas is a Blacksmith.

In 1841, he is a Smith.
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: riannisuileabhain on Sunday 23 April 23 22:14 BST (UK)
Just looking over my stuff too, in 1861 Susannah appears in the census (as Susannah Taylor) along with her child in Rathbone street, this is the same street as 1841/1851 Nicholas/Susannah censuses

thank you heywood for that info :)
Title: Re: Susannah Moizer
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 27 April 23 08:51 BST (UK)
Geneanet has the marriage of Nicholas Moizer to Susan Reynolds at St Annes church ,Liverpool
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James Moizer married Ellen Rogers at St Marys ,Walton on the Hill , Liverpool
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Baptism: 18 Oct 1812 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Moizer - Son of James Moizer & Ellen (formerly Rogers)
    Born: 14 Sep
    Abode: Pitt St.
    Occupation: Wheelwright
Baptism: 21 Jan 1816 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Nicholas Moizer - [Child] of James Moizer & Ellen
    Abode: Rea St.
    Occupation: Wheelwright
    Baptised by: James Gildart Curate

Baptism: 10 May 1818 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ellen Moizer - [Child] of James Moizer & Ellen
    Abode: Gibraltar St
    Occupation: Wheelwright
    Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Baptism: 14 Oct 1821 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Moizer - [Child] of James Moizer & Ellen
    Abode: Arley St
    Occupation: Wheelwright
    Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1821 - 1822, Page 113, Entry 902
    Source: LDS Film 1656418
Baptism: 14 Oct 1821 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Moizer - [Child] of James Moizer & Ellen
    Abode: Arley St
    Occupation: Wheelwright
hope it helps  :)
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added
possible baptism for James - the only one I can find in Lancashire forn the right time frame
Baptism: 8 Apr 1787 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
James Moizer - son of John Moizer & Margaret
    Abode: Skerton
was James /Ellens first born John named after his grandad ?