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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: John Bell on Saturday 22 April 23 03:56 BST (UK)
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Death Certificate GRO details for Susan Heggie Fimister:
Died 7 April 1872 of Phthisis (2 years) at No 1 Russell Place, aged 24 and wife of James Fimister, Engineer, Steam Vessel.
James Fimister was present at death at 1 Russell Place, Poplar.
The couple had recently returned from Constantinople (after 1871 Census) where they had lived for the past several years. I am presuming they had very recently returned to the UK because of her illness. Her husband returning to Constantinople some time after her death to return to his employment and leaving their son in the care of his grandmother in Scotland.
I am presuming the address is somewhere around the Docks area but would appreciate someone with the knowledge of that area at the time may be able to pinpoint its exact location and and suggestions as to where she may have been buried if locally.
Best Regards, John.
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In 1871 no 1 Russell Place, is right next door to the Artichoke Tavern, Blackwall
Some interesting detail about it on google including an engraving.
It was on Blackwall stairs and can be seen on this map.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102342032
On the river side (northern side) south of east India dock, russel place runs right along poplar dock towards the draw bridge to west India dock basin.
Hope that’s enough for you to find it.
Added…there are prints of paintings of the West & East India Docks. I think with a bit of perseverance you could probably narrow down to get an image of he Russel Place “zone”
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Shown here:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102342032#zoom=7&lat=8616&lon=6540&layers=BT
I see a Peter PEARSON (86) and Sarah Ann COOPER (26) of 2 Russell Place died in 1869 (sad double murder) and was buried at City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery
(register on ancestry)
Modified to add:
mckha beat me to the map, sorry.
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But at least you managed the zoom view ;D
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Very pleased someone on here taught me how to link the zoom view a little while ago. (via a tab at the bottom of the page) :D
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Ah! Like this? ( testing)
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102342032#zoom=8&lat=8466&lon=6529&layers=BT
Added..it worked. Thank you Maddy :)
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Mckha489 and Maddys52....thank you so much, spot on!
I have been reading up on the area since you sent through the information and following the development of Russell Place prior & post 1870s up to today.
It would seem a 26 floor apartment block now sits on the site, very nice and shiny but I think it would have been much more interesting in the 1800s!
Many thanks,
John.
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Ancestry Census England 1871 at 1 Russell Place Poplar -
family Alexander CRAIGIE 46y born Aberdeenshire Scotland and wife Harriet 40y born Pembroke, Wales and several children ...mms seems to be CORNISH.
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Thank you Wivenhoe,
1871 Census. 2 April 1871.
You have provided a little more background as the Fimister's may have been the next tenants to move in after the Craigie family moved out. (who knows!).
I know the Fimister's were living there 7 April 1872.
John.
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The CRAIGIE family is at 1 Russel Place from at least 1871 census to 1881 census, via Ancestry London Electors.
Is there a family connection between the FIMISTERs and the CRAIGIEs?
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Wivenhoe,
Not on the Susan Fimister (nee Heggie) side that I have come across, Susan is the blood relative.
Susan met James Fimister in Renfrewshire and they left soon after for Constantinaple.
He being Paisley born from Irish family with one brother.
They claim to have married in Constantinople in 1868 and returned prior to her death in 1872.
1 Russell Pl does seem to be full to the rafters in 1871 & 1872 and very accommodating to take in a person dying of TB along with her husband & child.
Still, it may have been a large enough home to rent out a room.
Thank you for the info, I shall certainly be searching further.
A perplexed John.
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Still, it may have been a large enough home to rent out a room
They had two lodgers in 1871
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Booth's Poverty map (about 1900)
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/16/-0.0084/51.5047/100/0
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ShaunJ & hanes teulu, thank you for your contributions.
I am 'almost' certain there is no connection between the Craigie and Fimister family and thank you for the link to Booth Poverty Map.
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Thank you for the thread.
As so often happens, I went off at a tangent, deciding to check out The Artichoke Tavern. An 1871 newspaper headline "WHAT ARE WHITEBAIT" (a particular favourite of mine) claimed "It should be known that the Artichoke Tavern, at Millwall, was the house under whose rooftree the original and earliest dish of the bait was cooked".
regards
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I love going off on tangents like that. Always something fascinating to discover! :D
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I love going off on tangents like that. Always something fascinating to discover! :D
It is almost disappointing when there is no Tangent to go off on.
I love them too.
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I love going off on tangents like that. Always something fascinating to discover! :D
It is almost disappointing when there is no Tangent to go off on.
I love them too.
With you all the way. Who said whitebait was boring!
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Death Certificate GRO details for Susan Heggie Fimister:
Died 7 April 1872 of Phthisis (2 years) at No 1 Russell Place, aged 24
suggestions as to where she may have been buried if locally.
Free index on deceased online has
Susan Higgie Finnister
Burial date 9 April 1872
Authority Newham
I believe she may have been buried at West Ham Cemetery, which is interesting
https://www.newham.gov.uk/births-deaths-marriages/burial-records/1
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Do let us know if you ever find the burial of Susan Heggie Fimister.