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Title: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: esseco on Friday 21 April 23 05:07 BST (UK)
Hello all,

I am the family historian for the ESSE family UK to Australia - I have a lady "Mollie Magdalene Ware"
who married my Ancestor Richard Gordon Esse in Sydney in 1922.  There is some discrepancy about her birth year and I was hoping someone on this forum could help.

I understand that Mollie Magdalene Ware was born about 1900 in Dublin and that is all the information I have about her except from when she married Richard - have quite a lot from their marriage.

Is there a website/facility that I can search for her birth details and her parents.

Any help will be most appreciated.

Thanks and regards,
Di Maloney
Victoria
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 21 April 23 06:38 BST (UK)
Have you tried searching for her on the IrishGenealogy website https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp which is free.

The 1901 and 1911 Irish censuses are also available to search.
See http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/


Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: esseco on Friday 21 April 23 06:41 BST (UK)
Thank you Kiltaglassan,
I am new at researching Irish family info and really need all the help this old bird can get.
Will try them now.
Cheers,
Di
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: esseco on Friday 21 April 23 06:55 BST (UK)
Oh well, I tried looking for Mollie Ware but kept getting births for someone with the name of Weir and even an O'Kane.

I know that there will be variations on the surname so will try somewhere else.

Cheers,
Di
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 21 April 23 08:17 BST (UK)

See new thread on Ireland (General) board-

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=872284.0


Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 22 April 23 22:20 BST (UK)
Just how difficult is it for OP to search for this herself, having been pointed to the website?

Looking on the Irish Genealogy website between 1895 and 1905, there is only one matching Mary Weir, with father John, in Dublin SRDs, in 1897. Took all of maybe 2 minutes.
There is also a Margaret Weir in Rathdown SRD, in 1903.
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 23 April 23 01:54 BST (UK)
That Mary in 1897, father John, has given names of Mary Harriet, so not sure that's a match.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02129/1809144.pdf

Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 23 April 23 02:31 BST (UK)
Quote from: eileenwilson on Sunday 23 April 23 01:54 BST (UK)
That Mary in 1897, father John, has given names of Mary Harriet, so not sure that's a match.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02129/1809144.pdf

Life is full of uncertainties....
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: eileenwilson on Sunday 23 April 23 02:34 BST (UK)
On the other post, I've told the OP to get the marriage record and go from there.  No sense guessing.
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 23 April 23 02:43 BST (UK)
Quote from: eileenwilson on Sunday 23 April 23 02:34 BST (UK)
On the other post, I've told the OP to get the marriage record and go from there.  No sense guessing.

Sure. But my point is that it wouldn't take much effort for OP to line up some ducks from this end.
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: esseco on Sunday 23 April 23 04:17 BST (UK)
Dear all,

Thank you for your posts - I truly am trying my best. I have now been in touch with one of her grandchildren so holefully things will move on a bit faster now, whether it be good news or bad, at least I now have a contact for the family.
Thanks all.
Cheers,
Di
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 23 April 23 10:06 BST (UK)
Quote from: eileenwilson on Sunday 23 April 23 01:54 BST (UK)
That Mary in 1897, father John, has given names of Mary Harriet, so not sure that's a match.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02129/1809144.pdf

She may have been given/taken the name of Magdalene at the time of her first communion. Her Saints day is 22/7 so it may be a family connection or around the date she was confirmed. 

Molly/Mollie is a diminutive for the name Mary.
Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 23 April 23 10:25 BST (UK)

Molly (also spelled Molli or Mollie) is a diminutive of the feminine name Mary. It may less commonly be used as a diminutive for feminine names that begin with M, such as Margaret, Martha, Martina or Melinda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_(name)#:~:text=Molly%20(also%20spelled%20Molli%20or,%2C%20Martha%2C%20Martina%20or%20Melinda.

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I understand that Mollie Magdalene Ware was born about 1900 in Dublin and that is all the information I have about her...

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From her death information her father's name was John, no mother mentioned..

Throwing this one in the pot-

Margaret Mary WARE born Queenstown, Cork in 1899. Father John WARE, a ship's carpenter. MMN O'Connor.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02013/1773080.pdf

1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Queenstown_Urban/Thomas_Street/1139462/


Title: Re: Mollie Magdalene Ware, Dublin
Post by: esseco on Monday 24 April 23 04:12 BST (UK)
Thank you once more for this information. I am quite overwhelmed with all the advice.

Will follow up all advice.

Cheers,
Di