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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Magh Itha on Wednesday 12 April 23 15:59 BST (UK)
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William Quinn and Mary Houston had three sons who left Donegal for Scotland and have never been heard from since.
William Quinn
William was born on 15th June 1874 in Meenbane I was told that he was killed by a train in Scotland.
John Quinn
John was born on 8th January 1877 in Lettermakenny. I was told that he and worked as a doorman in Motherwell.
Hugh Quinn
Hugh was born on the 8th September 1882 in Mullinavey. In Census 1901 he was described as an agricultural labourer and still in Ballindrait but by 1911 he had gone.
It was my granduncle Willie born in 1886 who told me about William and John and he never heard of Hugh.
This is all I have and would be grateful for any information.
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You need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
There are deaths of William Quinn, mother's maiden surname Houston, aged 27, in Rutherglen in 1903, and John Quinn, mmn Houston, aged 39 in Dalziel in 1916. Motherwell is in the parish of Dalziel.
There are six Hugh Quinns, born 1882 plus or minus 3 years, in the deaths index with no mmn.
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Deaths in Scotland's People database-
QUINN WILLIAM, age 27, mother's maiden name- HOUSTON, 1903, 654 / 319 RUTHERGLEN
QUINN JOHN, age 39. mother's maiden name- HOUSTON, 1916, 639 / 538 DALZIEL
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Thank you
Those death dates go towards explaining why nobody knew anything about them.
Scotstoun and Yoker in 1917 might be Hugh?
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In my 1911 Motherwell Directory there is only one John Quinn listed. His occupation is given as a bricklayer and he was living at 13/4 Scott Street.
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William Quinn
William was born on 15th June 1874 in Meenbane I was told that he was killed by a train in Scotland.
John Quinn
John was born on 8th January 1877 in Lettermakenny. I was told that he and worked as a doorman in Motherwell.
Could the stories have gotten confused over time and distance?
These newspaper snippets would be worth looking into further-
Motherwell Times, 17 Nov.1916: ... Wednesday night a _ named John Quinn (37), ... Park Street, was killed while pinching waggons _ Dalzell Steel The waggons were being shunted time, and Quinn _ was badly injured died almost immediately. Deceased was married, and was a prominent ...
Hamilton Advertiser, 25 Nov.1916: ... 6. JOHN QUINN. Steelwork Labourer, Railway Cottage, Park Street.
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My granduncle was quite young when he was told things and then he was away 1914-1918.
That story would fit and if the father of a family was killed then any children might not know their paternal heritage.
Thank You
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Hugh Quinn
Hugh was born on the 8th September 1882 in Mullinavey. In Census 1901 he was described as an agricultural labourer and still in Ballindrait but by 1911 he had gone.
Hugh at home in 1911? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002124091/
So, no trace of him after 1911?
See what you mean about no mention of Hugh is some areas :-\ Looking at this www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LRCW-L2B , see Hugh is not mentioned.
Monica
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Could this be Hugh's death on 2 October 1915 in Strathbane? Death reported by William Quinn, father https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05259/4458879.pdf
Monica
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Just about to post the same thing, Monica ;)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05259/4458879.pdf
The townland is Moneen in Strabane registration district which is where the family were living in 1911.
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Yes that is Hugh, dying in family home
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I should not have missed that
Thank You
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The records refereed to above are correct.
John and William both single died in Scotland and a most significant aspect was that their brother Dan was the informant on the deaths registration.
This must mean that they remained in contact with each other.
But the story of their deaths did not seem to get passed down the generations.
Yet my granduncle knew something.
I am now writing this up and they will not be forgotten.
There is some importance to be attached to something that you wrote yourself being re-visited and looked at anew.
Thanks to all
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I would imagine if you viewed the death registration for John in 1918, there would be a reference to an entry in the Register of Corrected entries (normally indicated by writring to the left margin of the death register entry).
The newspaper entry that aghadowey mentioned:
Hamilton Advertiser, 25 Nov.1916: ... 6. JOHN QUINN. Steelwork Labourer, Railway Cottage, Park Street.
This is a reference to an up and coming Fatal Accident Enquiry following his accident.
The RCE document, if linked to his death registration, will make reference to the enquiry and findings. You can see from the page on SP whether there is a RCE link to be viewed.
What did brother William die from in 1903?
Monica
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Was wondering what that was about
See Rep of Cor Entries
Col III ? Page 37; 5th January 1917
In the case of John only
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William died from Pneumonia
6 days
Certified
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The menfolk certainly had sad outcomes at relatively young ages didn't they. See that eldest brother James also died young in 1903 (grim death for him wasn't it :-\).
Trying to remember where exactly on the page you will see it. Certainly towards the top of the page, there should be ref to additional information about the entry and a button link.
Some background here www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/birth-death-and-marriage-records/register-of-corrected-entries
Added: Also here www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/record-guides/statutory-register-deaths#RCE
Monica