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Title: Another one I need help with
Post by: ian-nz on Monday 10 April 23 11:15 BST (UK)
Anyone know what this one would be.

Thanks Pauline
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: Davedrave on Monday 10 April 23 11:46 BST (UK)
The only things I can find so far which resemble this are cloth badges which can be seen lower down in this linked discussion:

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/281746-rnr-good-conduct-badges/

Seems it should be the other way up.

Second World War use here:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/royal_navy_badges/ratings_trade.htm

(I can’t see a metal version.)

This looks closest:    Ordinary Telegraphist and Boy Telegraphist
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: ian-nz on Tuesday 11 April 23 04:11 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

Thanks for your reply. I am a bit confused with this one. My dad was a Wireless operator, air Gunner & Air Navigator. His rank at the end of the war was Flying officer, so had nothing to do with the navy.
I will come back to this one.

Thanks again Pauline
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 11 April 23 05:02 BST (UK)
I think it maybe this one https://www.thecollectorsbag.com/1930s-ww2-australian-military-badge-australian-army-radio-operator-wings-light/   An Australian badge

Kay
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: ian-nz on Tuesday 11 April 23 06:37 BST (UK)
Thank you Kay I did a lot of searching today and could not find anything on this badge so thank you so much for finding the information for me. Another one off the list.

Pauline
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 11 April 23 06:43 BST (UK)
I think the find was a pure fluke - I tried many combinations of words and only came up with this when I searched on ww2  badge wings with lightning bolt :)

Kay
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: Davedrave on Tuesday 11 April 23 06:56 BST (UK)
That looks like it, though it says army, not air force, in the info  ???

(Two websites suggest that this was the RAAF radio operator badge:

https://www.militaria-sales.com.au/product/raaf-wireless-operator-badge-world-war-2/ )

Certainly my badge was wrong, though it does look as if the Australian badge you have was copied from the earlier Royal Navy badge.

Dave  :)   
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: John915 on Tuesday 11 April 23 20:43 BST (UK)
Good evening,

The army do not have telegraphists, they have signallers whose badge is crossed signal flags. Telegraphists are a navy trade and Australia used British trade badges. Unfortunately Kay99s badge is pictured upside down, the wing tips should point up whether RN or RAN.

John915
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: John915 on Tuesday 11 April 23 20:53 BST (UK)
Back again,

Another example here of one being pictured upside down. Navy trade patches are worn flat edge down.

John915
Title: Re: Another one I need help with
Post by: Andy J2022 on Tuesday 11 April 23 21:40 BST (UK)
The army do not have telegraphists, they have signallers whose badge is crossed signal flags.
You are technically correct when speaking about today's British Army (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Signals_trades), but you are wrong when looking back beyond April 2020 to around 1970. During that period the Royal Corps of Signals had three trades which incorporated the word telegraphist: the data telegraphist ( a keyboard operator), the radio telegraphist (able to send and receive Morse code mainly over HF radio) and the special telegraphist (an intercept operator who could read the varieties of Morse code employed by some other nations). In today's terminology, the rank of signaller is a private soldier (male or female) in the Royal Corps of Signals. The title signaller can be used as the job description of any soldier in any other combat arm, especially the infantry and armoured corps, whose job is to establish and maintain communications within their unit. In an infantry battalion they would be part of the signal platoon in headquarter company.