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Title: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: tracy67 on Friday 07 April 23 11:21 BST (UK)
Hello everyone!
I am trying to find information on Michael De La Crosse DOB: 1829 possible Manila Philippians, (I'm starting to think Manila in USA) DOD:27 July 1882 VIC Australia.
Married Ellen Helen Chapman Hawkins DOB: 12 May 1844 Wilford, Wiltshire, England. M:1860 VIC
DOD: 1924 VIC Australia

If anyone can help me search very much appreciated.

Regards
Tracy (Brisbane Australia)
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: garstonite on Friday 07 April 23 11:47 BST (UK)
Hiya Tracey - lets not forget not all trees are correct - but this is one tree
Michael De La Cross - no E ...but the kids are Crosse with an E ??
Born in 1829 - Manila, Capital District, National Capital Region, Philippines
Deceased in 1882 - Dunolly, Central Goldfields Shire, Victoria, Australia, aged 53 years old
Buried - Dunolly, Central Goldfields Shire, Victoria, Australia
 
Spouses and children
With Ellen Helen Hawkins 1844-1924 with
F Martha Charlotte Crosse 1864-1884
F Amelia Ratchell • Cross 1868-1884
M Alfred • Cross 1879-1946
F Elizabeth Jane Crosse
M Jacob Crosse 1870-1941
F Eva May Crosse
M Thomas Crosse
F Florence Ellen Crosse
 
tree owner is a Lyn Price - any Price in your family ??
hope it helps ??
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https://gw.geneanet.org/lynprice?n=de+la+cross&oc=&p=michael
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 07 April 23 12:19 BST (UK)
Do you have the 1860 Marriage Cert?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: tracy67 on Friday 07 April 23 12:50 BST (UK)
Hi Trish,
No I don't have marriage certificate

Tracy :-\
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: tracy67 on Friday 07 April 23 12:59 BST (UK)
Hi Garstonite,

I will look into this thank you very much

Tracy
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 07 April 23 13:11 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy.
I have a 1869 Victorian M/C that states Bride/Grooms Parents names, Mothers maiden names and occp of the Fathers.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: tracy67 on Sunday 09 April 23 04:22 BST (UK)
Trish,
I would love a copy ot names of parents If possible
Regards,
Tracy67
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: wivenhoe on Sunday 09 April 23 05:13 BST (UK)

This is the marriage record that you need to see -

VIC BDM marriage
3299/1860 HAWKINS Hellen    marr.   DE LA CROSS, Michael

Trish does not have this marriage record. Trish has a marriage record, Victoria, 1869, and is telling you that a marriage record, Victoria,  lists parents' names for bride and groom, occupations for the father of bride and groom.

It will also list age and birthplace for bride and groom, occupation for bride and groom, residence for each, and names of witnesses.
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 April 23 05:31 BST (UK)
Please be aware too there is a town called Manilla in NSW, north south of Tamworth.
Sue
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 09 April 23 06:05 BST (UK)
There is an inquest into the death of 4 yr old Thomas de la Cross in 1866 (son of Michael and Ellen)
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/CD9CB88E-F1B7-11E9-AE98-2BB1CB589270?image=1

This shows that there is a Marsillo de la Cross living 100 yards from Michael de la Cross and family – Marsillo is married to Ann Brown. Ann gives a statement in the inquest.
Is this possibly a brother to Michael?

Marriage in 1862 for Ann Brown to Marseill De La Crosse
Death for Marchella (de la) Cross in 1886 (born abt 1832)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174824855/marchella-cross
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 April 23 06:27 BST (UK)
Not greatly helpful, but of interest, 1863 lively news item about Michael and Ellen CROSS and an intruder.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/253527122?searchTerm=%22michael%20cross%22%20-examined

Sue
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 April 23 06:36 BST (UK)
Shortly after his father's death, Jacob CROSS stole a gun and was comitted at Seymour.

Record here
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/A10A327F-F4C7-11E9-AE98-3385090A3952?image=71

Additional information about the young Jacob
Jacob cross absconded from the industrial school
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/59750173?searchTerm=%22jacob%20Crosse%20%22

Jacob left his father's home at Burn Creek and ran away aged ged 14
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/165086835?searchTerm=%22jacob%20Crosse%20%22

Sue
   
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 April 23 06:46 BST (UK)
State ward document for Jacob CROSS (found wandering) has some nformation about the family, siblings etc and says Ellen is destitute. 1882

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/989D84D9-F4C7-11E9-AE98-31B9FC194D02?image=161

Sue
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 April 23 08:19 BST (UK)
Also state wards a few months after their father's death,
 Florence Ellen CROSS, Eliza Jane CROSS
 Search here for images.   
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/adoption-ward-state-and-care-leaver-records/ward-state-and-care

Their mother remarried in 1885
CROSSE Ellen
 SHAW, James
1885
6095/1885

Sue
Title: Re: Michael De La Crosse (Crosse)
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 09 April 23 08:41 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy.

As wivenhoe stated I do not have that M/C but one from 1869 for my own ancestors.

You will have to apply for it yourself and it should be full of the info you require.

Trish :)