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Title: photo of lady and man
Post by: heath on Tuesday 04 April 23 04:56 BST (UK)
I believe that this photo to have been taken in Scotland.  Would it be a photo of two people taken after a wedding.  The man holding marriage license.  ie husband and wife? could you please give me a date - era
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 04 April 23 23:17 BST (UK)
I would suggest this is Edwardian, it could be a wedding photo.
Carol
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 04 April 23 23:33 BST (UK)
It could be a wedding photo. Do I see a possible pregnancy?

I agree with Carol about the date. (add -bow tie might suggest later - into the early 1910s)


Gadget
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: ColinBignell on Tuesday 04 April 23 23:43 BST (UK)
Queen Victoria popularised white as the colour to wear at weddings and that dress looks black, which I would associate with funerals. I'm not an horticulturalist, but if those flowers are lilies, that would also suggest a funeral.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 05 April 23 09:37 BST (UK)
The setting looks like a photographer's studio ... would that be a normal setting for a wedding or a funeral ?

Also, he's doesn't appear to be wearing a ring but has a bright button badge in his lapel.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 05 April 23 10:22 BST (UK)
It looks like a church doorway to me, a modest town church, but I think it is a scene against a wall to suggest a nicer setting so probably a studio.
Do I see a carpet up steps?
White was not always worn, , many could only afford their best clothes.
My paternal grandmother wore a tweed dress with leg of mutton sleeves ,back in 1896, and it was a Church wedding and no pregnancy. 
The bride does not look very young so perhaps a second marriage , but my grandmother was 30 when she married,born 1866.

Not all men wore/wear rings , my O,H didn’t .
It could be after a funeral , but then why a photo?
Hope  you get more info.Viktoria.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: ColinBignell on Wednesday 05 April 23 10:42 BST (UK)

Also, he's doesn't appear to be wearing a ring but has a bright button badge in his lapel.

I wouldn't expect to see a man wearing a wedding ring until fairly recent times. It certainly isn't something men of my generation would be likely to do.

However, a random thought: I wonder if the roll of paper in his hand and the badge signify that he has taken the pledge.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 05 April 23 10:49 BST (UK)
Why would she be carrying a flower??

Add  - and he a scroll??
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: ColinBignell on Wednesday 05 April 23 11:10 BST (UK)
Why would she be carrying a flower??

Add  - and he a scroll??

It was only a random thought, but I wondered if the scroll might be the pledge he had signed. Whether or not white flowers might be a symbol of temperance I cannot say. There were lots of different temperance movements and they are poorly documented.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 05 April 23 11:45 BST (UK)
Agree late Edwardian-early teens.
I don't think a wedding photo as even in the absence
of wedding attire most couples marked the moment with
corsages at least also I would expect her to be showing her wedding ring.
The scroll might indicate some sort of celebratory event which
has prompted a photo.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 05 April 23 11:59 BST (UK)
In my Maternal Grandparents wedding photo taken in 1906, neither are wearing or holding flowers and my Grandma isn't displaying her wedding ring.
Carol
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 05 April 23 12:55 BST (UK)
In contrast with Treetotal's grandparents' marriage photograph, here are my grandparents married in 1908.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 05 April 23 13:01 BST (UK)
That's a lovely photo BB, my Grandparents were working class.
Carol
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 05 April 23 13:14 BST (UK)
And mine - Wilfrid was a Tailor, his father was a Silk Dresser, and Maria's father was a Boot and Shoemaker.  1901 census shows Maria as a Tailoress, so that might have something to do with the wedding outfits.  8)
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 05 April 23 13:17 BST (UK)
In my grandparents’photo my grandmother is standing whilst grandad sits!
Emancipation had not yet arrived!
Viktoria.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Ian Nelson on Wednesday 05 April 23 16:13 BST (UK)
Convinced it is a Studio ... there is no Depth to the background - I suggest a Screen, look at the black line behind his feet and her dress.
cheers, Ian
PS. not sure what difference that makes anyway ...
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 05 April 23 16:48 BST (UK)
Taking your point, Ian, about a studio photograph, I'm now very dubious about the wonderful bouquet my grandmother was holding  :-\  It might not have been hers  :'(

Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 05 April 23 22:51 BST (UK)
What you are seeing is a photographer's backdrop, according to a book I have read, some photographers had more than one backdrop to suit the occasion. You can clearly see the fold at the bottom where it meets the ground.
BB, the bouquet would have been her own, her husbands buttonhole also. Although photographers often had props, I doubt that flowers would have been provided.
Carol
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: PurdeyB on Wednesday 05 April 23 23:20 BST (UK)
What you are seeing is a photographer's backdrop, according to a book I have read, some photographers had more than one backdrop to suit the occasion. You can clearly see the fold at the bottom where it meets the ground.
BB, the bouquet would have been her own, her husbands buttonhole also. Although photographers often had props, I doubt that flowers would have been provided.
Carol

Funnily enough, I was part of a conversation about this at a local museum event today. Someone said her grandparents married in the 1920s and had studio photos taken which included a bridal bouquet of wax flowers which were a photographer's prop and were re-used.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: heath on Thursday 06 April 23 02:30 BST (UK)
thanks to all.  Were do I begin.  Yes I would agree with a Studio photo.  There was no name etc on the bottom, of the photo.  I don't think the flowers are Lilies.  We have a time frame of 1901-1910.
You can't see a ring as the lady is wearing gloves.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 06 April 23 20:10 BST (UK)
What you are seeing is a photographer's backdrop, according to a book I have read, some photographers had more than one backdrop to suit the occasion. You can clearly see the fold at the bottom where it meets the ground.
BB, the bouquet would have been her own, her husbands buttonhole also. Although photographers often had props, I doubt that flowers would have been provided.
Carol

That's interesting, Info about  1920s studio props, but this is an Edwardian image, but could still n
Be the case if the ocassion warranted flowers.
Carol
Carol

Funnily enough, I was part of a conversation about this at a local museum event today. Someone said her grandparents married in the 1920s and had studio photos taken which included a bridal bouquet of wax flowers which were a photographer's prop and were re-used.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: heath on Thursday 06 April 23 23:09 BST (UK)
would this be possibly for a wedding in 1897 .  I have two in that year, one at the being and the other at the end.  both would have been in the very early 20's. It's just before the Edwardian era, and the people do look a bit older that that.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: Gadget on Friday 07 April 23 00:02 BST (UK)
Do you have any births - late Edwardian to 1912 ish?

I still think that she could be pregnant.
Title: Re: photo of lady and man
Post by: heath on Monday 10 April 23 05:44 BST (UK)
Yes I do have a couple that married in 1897 with children all being born in 1900-1910, so this could well be them.  thanks so much  :)