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Title: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: tetapay on Saturday 18 March 23 17:34 GMT (UK)
I have tried many times myself to find my great grandfather in the WWI records, from service records and medal records to pension records, with no success. I'll list below everything we know and all the 'family lore' about him and am wondering if anyone else can try see if they can find him.

His name was Gerard Robert John Wood, born 20 June 1896 in Barrow-In-Furness to William Wood (1865-1930) and Mary Thomasina White (1866-1944). In all of the records I have of him he goes by either Gerard or Gerard Robert John.

At some point he joined the Army, my grandfather reckons in the East Lancashire regiment, and was supposedly gassed he reckons in about 1916 (this is all family memory so this is quite uncertain).

Sometime after then he joined the Royal Army Medical Corps (this we are much more certain in as post war he moved into work as a mental nurse)

He was then supposedly shot in the foot in 1918 (again, a family story so may or may not have happened).

He died on 17 July 1966 and is commemorated on the Newton-le-Willows Garden of Rememberance Wall Plaque, which definitely suggests that he did indeed serve in WWI.

Any help anyone could provide would be most appreciated.
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Saturday 18 March 23 17:54 GMT (UK)
There was a Gerard Wood in the East Lancashire regiment in WWI:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D5975426

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 18 March 23 18:02 GMT (UK)
Over 60% of WW1 service records were burnt in the WW2 blitz

Ancestry - Medal Roll Index - transcribed as Gerald but is clearly Gerard Wood

Private - East Lancs Regiment  - number 30365

Awarded the British & Victory medals.  No other annotations on the card

EDIT

Oops - should have opened the link above - same person😱
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Saturday 18 March 23 18:22 GMT (UK)
The 1939 Register says he was born  16 June 1896 not 20 June
There is no Evidence He or his Two Brothers Served in WW1
30365 didn't get Conscripted till 1916 and never in the RAMC
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Saturday 18 March 23 18:26 GMT (UK)
If they followed their Dad into Foundry
They would have been Exempted
Not saying he didn't become a Nurse in the 1920s
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 18 March 23 19:13 GMT (UK)
Per FindMyPast's "Barrow-In-Furness Shipbuilding & Engineering Employees" dataset, Gerard Robert John Wood was employed by Vickers as an apprentice plater from 17 August 1911. There's a remark "Cancelled March 16, 1917".
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Saturday 18 March 23 20:01 GMT (UK)
If you know where he would have been living in 1918/19 you could see if you could find him on the relevant Absent Voters' List. With any luck it will include his rank, service number and regiment/corps.

STG

Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Saturday 18 March 23 20:45 GMT (UK)
No Luck for him on Absent Voters
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Sunday 19 March 23 08:30 GMT (UK)
I have tried many times myself to find my great grandfather in the WWI records, from service records and medal records to pension records, with no success. I'll list below everything we know and all the 'family lore' about him and am wondering if anyone else can try see if they can find him.

His name was Gerard Robert John Wood, born 20 June 1896 in Barrow-In-Furness to William Wood (1865-1930) and Mary Thomasina White (1866-1944). In all of the records I have of him he goes by either Gerard or Gerard Robert John.

At some point he joined the Army, my grandfather reckons in the East Lancashire regiment, and was supposedly gassed he reckons in about 1916 (this is all family memory so this is quite uncertain).

Sometime after then he joined the Royal Army Medical Corps (this we are much more certain in as post war he moved into work as a mental nurse)

He was then supposedly shot in the foot in 1918 (again, a family story so may or may not have happened).

He died on 17 July 1966 and is commemorated on the Newton-le-Willows Garden of Rememberance Wall Plaque, which definitely suggests that he did indeed serve in WWI.

Any help anyone could provide would be most appreciated.


The 1921Census he is Still  aged 25 living at Home with his Parents shows him as an Out of Work - Steel Dresser
Rather good Evidence he was employed in an Exempted Occupation during the War in Steel Production Not in Army Service

Why would he Enlist aged 18 in 1914 in the East Lancashire Regt ?

He didn't Live in Lancashire

None of his Brothers Enlisted presume because Steel Exempted Profession

If he was Gassed he would have Discharged on Disability

That would have been a Problem to Enlistment in RAMC in the 1920s

I would suggest he Joined the RAMC in the 1920s to get Work and then Still Nurse in 1939

His 1920s Army Records will be Held in MOD Glasgow with just his Date of Birth and Name to confirm my Theory
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: Blairvadach on Sunday 19 March 23 09:04 GMT (UK)
You could try the Great War forum. It’s helped me out.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Sunday 19 March 23 17:00 GMT (UK)
Why would Gerard
 be Commemorated on Newton-le-Willows Memorial Plaque of the Dead in WW1
if he didn't Die until July 1966 ?
Title: Re: Help finding great grandfather in WWI records
Post by: CraigM63 on Sunday 19 March 23 22:47 GMT (UK)
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He died on 17 July 1966 and is commemorated on the Newton-le-Willows Garden of Rememberance Wall Plaque, which definitely suggests that he did indeed serve in WWI.

Looking at the cemetery records on Findagrave, I rather suspect that the Garden of Remembrance Wall Plaques are to commemorate cremations, and have no connection to military service in WW1 or any other era.