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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: ccmmgr on Friday 10 March 23 21:04 GMT (UK)
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If you were a devout Methodist living at Parliament St in Morecambe in 1901, where is the most likely place you would have been buried? I'm aiming to look around some of the churchyards when I next visit but wondering if anyone with better local / contextual knowledge might be able to answer this more easily than my guesswork from afar.
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Have you got a name for this person you are hoping to find
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Have you got a name for this person you are hoping to find
Yes, it was more a contextual question but happy for someone kind to give looking it up another go - I have done several searches via FindMyPast, Ancestry, FindAGrave, DeceasedOnline, etc. but sadly no fruit.
Henry Marshall, b.1833, d. Jul 1901 - last address 51 Parliament St, Morecambe. Born Marwood in Devon. He moved around quite a lot until the last few decades of his life.
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Buried at Morecambe Cemetery, 25 July 1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-QFBL?i=1648&cat=996486
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Buried at Morecambe Cemetery, 25 July 1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-QFBL?i=1648&cat=996486
Thank you :-*
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Is Nellie Marshall a relative,
daughter of Frank Marshall
abode 65 Yorkshire St
buried at 3 o'clock on the 23rd July 1901
number of grave c1
section pink
consecrated
7 internment
Morecambe cemetery order books
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Morecambe cemetery order books,
no of order 2991
register of burial 2277
Henry Marshall
schoolmaster
aged 68 years
abode 51 Parliament Street
buried at 3 o'clock on the 25th July 1901
Grave 62,
2nd internement
burial by the reverend P R Passmore Wesleyan minister
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ignore that I see now that Jen has posted a link to the actual image,
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Morecambe cemetery order books,
no of order 2991
register of burial 2277
Henry Marshall
schoolmaster
aged 68 years
abode 51 Parliament Street
buried at 3 o'clock on the 25th July 1901
Grave 62,
2nd internement
burial by the reverend P R Passmore Wesleyan minister
Thank you so much for this - I wonder what it means by 2nd internment - that they re-buried him for some reason? Goodness. Thank you both again.
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Buried in the same Grave
Evelyn Marshall aged 6 months feb 23rd 1899
I think it says Elizabeth not quite sure aged 72, December 15th 1903
Clara Marshall aged 68 ,18/7/1930
Grave in name of Willy Marshall,
writings a bit blurry
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no second internment means he was the second person to be buried in the grave
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P.R. Passmore was very likely a relative as the families were married into one another. I wonder if P.R. Passmore is correct - my great-great grandfather Joseph Passmore did serve the Wesleyan circuit in the area around this time so it is quite possible he would have taken the service.
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Buried in the same Grave
Evelyn Marshall aged 6 months feb 23rd 1899
I think it says Elizabeth not quite sure aged 72, December 15th 1903
Clara Marshall aged 68 ,18/7/1930
Grave in name of Willy Marshall,
writings a bit blurry
Wonderful detail, thank you so, so much.
Ah yes, of course RE: second internment - brain not working as currently down with something nasty (mercifully not the dreaded!)
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order 2505
register of burial no, 1912
Date of internment, 23rd Feb 1899 at 3 o'clock,
Evelyn Marshall,
daughter of John Willis Marshall
aged 6 months,
abode 6 Winterdene Terrace
Grave purchased by John Willis Marshall,
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Martha Marshall
spinster
aged 68 years
buried 18th July 1930, at 2.30 pm
her address when she died 76 Byron Road Blackpool
buried by Mark Lund Minister, 80 Warbreck Hill Road Blackpool
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Morecambe cemetery order books
No of order,3318,
register of burial no, 2526
Eliza Marshall widow of Henry Marshall
abode 51 Parliament st
interned at3 o'clock on the 15th June 1903
3rd Internment
service by the Reverend P R Passmore Wesleyan Minister,
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Thank you so much for this - I wonder what it means by 2nd internment - that they re-buried him for some reason? Goodness. Thank you both again.
As Radcliff has said, this was the 2nd interment (note spelling :D ) in this grave.
Here's a link to the Graves Register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-Z9V6-2?i=224&cat=996486
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P.R. Passmore was very likely a relative as the families were married into one another. I wonder if P.R. Passmore is correct - my great-great grandfather Joseph Passmore did serve the Wesleyan circuit in the area around this time so it is quite possible he would have taken the service.
I think it's likely to have been Philip R. Passmore, who was also a Wesleyan Minister, resident in Townley Street, Morecambe in 1901.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GB-MJ2
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spelling isn't my strong point being dyslexic , so if there are mistakes I apologise because I don't always realise I have done them ,we often pop over to Morecambe for lunch in our favourite art deco building, I have never been into the cemetery , I wonder if there is a headstone
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- my great-great grandfather Joseph Passmore did serve the Wesleyan circuit in the area around this time so it is quite possible he would have taken the service.
Morecambe Guardian 02 June 1933 mentions the Rev J Passmore who has been Superintendent of the Morecambe Wesleyan circuit since September 1906. It mentions him being offered a post in India.
we often pop over to Morecambe for lunch in our favourite art deco building,
I am trying to think of a good excuse to go visit/stay in that building again but I seem to have run out of excuses to visit Heysham cemetery ;D
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I have never been into the cemetery , I wonder if there is a headstone
According to this list https://www.lfhhs.org/lfhhs_org_uk_archive_2016/morecambeMC2.htm published by the Lancaster and Morecambe branch of the Lancashire Family History Society there is indeed a headstone. However you have to be a member of the society to get a copy of the actual photo.
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There is a booklet for the MIs of "Morecambe Municipal Cemetery" - this is the cemetery just off Hornby Terrace - published by the Lancaster & District Family History Group (which you can buy from them - see their website). I have several relatives buried there, so it was worthwhile buying a copy.
Yes, there is an MI for Henry Marshall and the following people are mentioned on it:
1) Henry Marshall died July 2nd [sic] 1901 aged 68
2) Eliza his wife died June 12th 1903 aged 72
3) Evelyn, daughter of J.W. & Eva Marshall and grand-daughter of the above, died Feb 21st 1899 aged 6 months
4) Clara, daughter of the above H. & E. Marshall died July 14th 1930 aged 68.
no other people called Marshall with an MI in that cemetery.
Ian
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Thank you so much for this - I wonder what it means by 2nd internment - that they re-buried him for some reason? Goodness. Thank you both again.
As Radcliff has said, this was the 2nd interment (note spelling :D ) in this grave.
Here's a link to the Graves Register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-Z9V6-2?i=224&cat=996486
Thanks - yes, aware of the difference, down with flu so not parsing information as efficiently as I might like!:)
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P.R. Passmore was very likely a relative as the families were married into one another. I wonder if P.R. Passmore is correct - my great-great grandfather Joseph Passmore did serve the Wesleyan circuit in the area around this time so it is quite possible he would have taken the service.
I think it's likely to have been Philip R. Passmore, who was also a Wesleyan Minister, resident in Townley Street, Morecambe in 1901.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GB-MJ2
Yes, having viewed the original now I can see that it wouldn't be - sometimes Js and Ps can be a bit ambiguous in the script of the day so figured it was a possibility. I think Philip is another cousin though - will have to check - thank you so much! :)
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- my great-great grandfather Joseph Passmore did serve the Wesleyan circuit in the area around this time so it is quite possible he would have taken the service.
Morecambe Guardian 02 June 1933 mentions the Rev J Passmore who has been Superintendent of the Morecambe Wesleyan circuit since September 1906. It mentions him being offered a post in India.
we often pop over to Morecambe for lunch in our favourite art deco building,
I am trying to think of a good excuse to go visit/stay in that building again but I seem to have run out of excuses to visit Heysham cemetery ;D
Thank you. :)
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I have never been into the cemetery , I wonder if there is a headstone
According to this list https://www.lfhhs.org/lfhhs_org_uk_archive_2016/morecambeMC2.htm published by the Lancaster and Morecambe branch of the Lancashire Family History Society there is indeed a headstone. However you have to be a member of the society to get a copy of the actual photo.
Really useful, appreciated. I'm likely to visit Lancaster again within the year so may hold off paying for a photo but the booklet still looks interesting!
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There is a booklet for the MIs of "Morecambe Municipal Cemetery" - this is the cemetery just off Hornby Terrace - published by the Lancaster & District Family History Group (which you can buy from them - see their website). I have several relatives buried there, so it was worthwhile buying a copy.
Yes, there is an MI for Henry Marshall and the following people are mentioned on it:
1) Henry Marshall died July 2nd [sic] 1901 aged 68
2) Eliza his wife died June 12th 1903 aged 72
3) Evelyn, daughter of J.W. & Eva Marshall and grand-daughter of the above, died Feb 21st 1899 aged 6 months
4) Clara, daughter of the above H. & E. Marshall died July 14th 1930 aged 68.
no other people called Marshall with an MI in that cemetery.
Ian
Thank you so much!
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I was born and brought up in Morecambe.
In 1901 the town barely existed, it was a boom time with building works everywhere.
There is Morecambe Parish Church which is located behind the ex Town Hall (it is clearly visible from the Promenade) in the East End of Town.
There is a graveyard around it but I have never been in either, if there was another graveyard then it is possible that it and the residents were moved to one of the two graveyards in use today.
Today there are graveyards on Westgate about 400 yards from the Shrimp Roundabout.
Then there is the one on Hale Carr in Heysham.
St Peter’s church and graveyard in Heysham is still used, if you have never been its well worth visiting this Church and the nearby Barrows Headland NT owned land.
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I was born and brought up in Morecambe.
In 1901 the town barely existed, it was a boom time with building works everywhere.
There is Morecambe Parish Church which is located behind the ex Town Hall (it is clearly visible from the Promenade) in the East End of Town.
There is a graveyard around it but I have never been in either, if there was another graveyard then it is possible that it and the residents were moved to one of the two graveyards in use today.
Today there are graveyards on Westgate about 400 yards from the Shrimp Roundabout.
Then there is the one on Hale Carr in Heysham.
St Peter’s church and graveyard in Heysham is still used, if you have never been its well worth visiting this Church and the nearby Barrows Headland NT owned land.
Thank you so much, I'm heading up tomorrow and will take a look over the next couple of weeks.
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following on from my earlier email re the MI. --the cemetery you want is actually next to Holy Trinity Church, the old Parish Church for Morecambe (but not the church graveyard - it's a separate area next to it). It's also not far from the police station (the one which appears in the current detective programme "The Bay" on television). If this helps, the entrance to the cemetery is at the end of Church Street, just at the point where the metalled road becomes the back street for Hornby Terrace.
Have a look on streetview and you can see this clearly.
Ian