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Title: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Kiwimacca on Thursday 09 March 23 07:00 GMT (UK)
I am trying to trace the birth parents of Harvey Wild who was killed at Passchendale during WWI.  It lists his next of kin as Charlotte Wild of Waimate (Harveys Grandmother) New Zealand but can find no record of his mother or father.  I have a connection with Mary Wild/Vincent from Waimate who was Charlottes daughter and was wondering if Mary was Harveys mother?  Mary was the mother of my Grandmother Alice Vincent/Benbow/Hopkinson.  Many thanks kiwimacca 9 March 2023
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 07:15 GMT (UK)
ON THE Wailmate INSCRIPTION RECORDS
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ENTRY NUMBERS
902, George second son of William and Charlotte Wild died 24th May 1889,sister Katherine Kate aged 15 months, and Harvey erected by their parents
903, William Wild aged 78 years died 27th September 1910,
904, Harvey Wild Killed in action ,France 12th October 1917, father ,mother ,brother
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 07:19 GMT (UK)
His enlistment papers give his birth date as 29th August 1888
trade , Gardner,
full name George Harvey Wild,
next of Kin Mrs C Wild,8 Bett Street Waimate,
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 07:31 GMT (UK)
Harvey does leave a will and you can access it on family search org,
he names his Aunts Kate Vincent and Margaret Emily Shepherd as two benificeries ,and another Aunt Alice Attewell being named , the church wardens at St Stephens are also mentioned
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Kiwimacca on Thursday 09 March 23 07:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you all.  William and Charlotte Wild were Harveys Grandparents.  There is no information about his mother or father. Kiwimacca
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 07:40 GMT (UK)
I don't really know much about New Zealand births and the only one I can pick up on has Harveys mother as a single Jane Wild, in 1888
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 07:51 GMT (UK)
there is a tree on ancestry that states Jane is the sister of Mary child of George and Charlotte and mother of Harvey ,
Grandfather Williams death notice states he had six daughters and four sons plus an adopted son,
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 08:07 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage on family search
Jane Wild to James Edward Gozzard Rumble, 1891
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 09 March 23 08:24 GMT (UK)
I don't really know much about New Zealand births and the only one I can pick up on has Harveys mother as a single Jane Wild, in 1888


1888/5757   Wild   Harvey   Jane   NR.   drilling down gives a date of birth of 23rd August.

I think Radcliff is correct.
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 08:29 GMT (UK)
Jane Wild as I said above married in 1891 to James
they had a family together Percy Edward 1893 , James Edward 1895, Lottie Maria Lucy, 1896, William George Wild 1897, Mary Jane Annie 1897,

James Edward possibly died 1898, I can't access any details as the link has gone down to New Zealand civil records,  but it appears Jane remarried to George Hamilton Gibson
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 09 March 23 08:31 GMT (UK)
Yes. here

1901/1597   Jane   Rumble   George Hamilton   Gibson


2 more children

1903/22010   Gibson   George Hamilton   Jane   George Hamilton   
1901/12100   Gibson   Elizabeth Jane   Jane   George Hamilton
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Kiwimacca on Thursday 09 March 23 08:34 GMT (UK)
Harvey was born c1890. Birth date not known but he died 1917 aged 27
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 09 March 23 08:38 GMT (UK)
His enlistment papers give his birth date as 29th August 1888
trade , Gardner,
full name George Harvey Wild,
next of Kin Mrs C Wild,8 Bett Street Waimate,

Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 09 March 23 08:38 GMT (UK)
I don't really know much about New Zealand births and the only one I can pick up on has Harveys mother as a single Jane Wild, in 1888


1888/5757   Wild   Harvey   Jane   NR.   drilling down gives a date of birth of 23rd August.

I think Radcliff is correct.

Dates close enough for those days.
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Kiwimacca on Thursday 09 March 23 08:44 GMT (UK)
https://museum.timaru.govt.nz/explore/scroll/profile?id=2432
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 09 March 23 09:09 GMT (UK)
its doubtful you will find the father of Harvey, perhaps he never knew himself, there would only be a few people who knew this information, the mother perhaps the reputed father, and maybe Grandma,
I think perhaps you will have to settle for just knowing Jane was his mother, if Harvey himself had married and had children DNA would have been a way of finding out the truth,
good luck with the rest of your research, Harveys death is well recorded ,sadly his baptism I can not find, that may be accessible in the local archives in Canterbury , Methodist or non conformist records ,
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 09 March 23 09:49 GMT (UK)
A courtesy link to a completed thread on the New Zealand Board
 > Topic : Mary VINCENT (nee WILD) in which many members of her wider family - including Harvey WILD - are discussed.   (Some answers already given along with links to supporting records. )

 https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=706678.0

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 09 March 23 10:56 GMT (UK)
I am trying to trace the birth parents of Harvey Wild ......   I have a connection with Mary Wild/Vincent from Waimate who was Charlottes daughter and was wondering if Mary was Harveys mother?   
Many thanks kiwimacca 9 March 2023

Hello kiwimacca

The "Mary VINCENT - nee WILD" (completed) thread on the New Zealand Board to which you have previously posted, I know, is very lengthy (- I've had to re-read it myself to refresh my memory). 
It does though serve as a very good first port of call for information on the wider families of VINCENT and WILD (sometimes spelled as "WILDS").

I thought as you had commented there on Mary VINCENT's children, that you may have have picked up on the post which mentioned some other births to Mary ???

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=706678.0 
   >  See Reply # 66 

1888 / 10177 - Henry VINCENT - son of Mary / father not recorded
--   this child was born on 19 October 1888  two months after the birth of Harvey WILD (b 23 August 1888) - to Jane WILD, so Mary could not have been Harvey's mother.

    ~  Lu


Title: Re: Harvey Wild, Waimate NZ Who were his parents?
Post by: Kiwimacca on Thursday 09 March 23 23:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for you input. I think I can safely assume that Harveys mother was an unmarried Jane Vincent (unknown father) and not Mary as I had wondered
Best wishes
kiwimacca