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Title: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: sossle on Tuesday 07 March 23 15:21 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Can anyone help please. I have a family in Salford . On Free bmd there are 5 birth entries each registered twice with 2 different surnames & all have the same Mothers maiden name?
Thank you
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 07 March 23 15:31 GMT (UK)
The births will be registered once; but indexed twice ;)

Probably on the certificate as Smith or Jones; or Smith otherwise known as Jones.

It's also possible that mother and father weren't married - so births were index under both surnames.
If after 1874, father would need to be present at the registration AND give his permission.
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: sossle on Tuesday 07 March 23 17:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the reply. Don't think they were married as can't find a marriage anywhere for them. I can understand if they weren't married that both of their surnames would be indexed but there are two surnames & a maiden surname? Kind Regards
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 07 March 23 17:30 GMT (UK)
What years are you talking about
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: sossle on Tuesday 07 March 23 17:36 GMT (UK)
  1918 to 1930
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 07 March 23 17:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  Have you tried looking for a previous marriage for the mother.  Other than that maybe you need to purchase one of the certificates to see how the information is laid out
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: sossle on Tuesday 07 March 23 17:52 GMT (UK)
Yes I looked for a previous marriage for the Mother but  I can't find one. I also can't find the family on the 1921 census but they continued to have more children in the same area. I looked for them with all three surnames. Kind Regards
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 07 March 23 17:56 GMT (UK)
I would suggest that you take rosie99's advice and purchase one of the certificates.

Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 07 March 23 19:04 GMT (UK)
Or why not post what details you have here of any of those now deceased & we may be able to help.  Difficult without knowing the actual facts
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: AntonyMMM on Wednesday 08 March 23 11:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the reply. Don't think they were married as can't find a marriage anywhere for them. I can understand if they weren't married that both of their surnames would be indexed but there are two surnames & a maiden surname? Kind Regards

Could be an unmarried couple, but where the mother is (or has been) married to someone else.... there are lots of possibilities, and you can't be sure just from the index entries.
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: sossle on Wednesday 08 March 23 15:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help. I don't know if any are still alive so won't post their details. Some are younger than my Mum & she is still alive & kicking at 98!
Title: Re: Births have 2 surnames
Post by: california dreamin on Wednesday 08 March 23 16:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Sossie

This may be an example of a double barrelled surname, so the entry will be indexed under each name. I guess an example might be Mary Smith Jones. It'll be indexed under both Smith and Jones.

CD