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Title: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Kelger123 on Tuesday 07 March 23 03:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,  My family, Connor, Lee, Reil, and Duff, originated on the Pakenham Estate and lived in the Kiltoom area which is part of the townland of Faughalstown.  The more recent baptisms and marriages were held in Mayne parish church in Coole however, some of the earlier ones were said to be in the Delvin parish.  I have never found any records of my family in Delvin.  I would have thought Castlepollard would have covered the area but no.  Can anyone shed light on when the changes were made and am I right to continue to search Delvin?
Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: athacliath62 on Tuesday 07 March 23 06:42 GMT (UK)
are you referring to Catholic parishes ?

If you look at the map on the NLI website (https://registers.nli.ie/) the adjacent parishes to Mayne are Castlepollard to the North, Collinstown to the north east, Taghmon (Meath Diocese) to the south east, Multifarnham to the south and street to the west.

Delvin/Castletowndelvin parish is not adjacent to Mayne and is to the south east of Collinstown.
Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 07 March 23 07:46 GMT (UK)

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...originated on the Pakenham Estate and lived in the Kiltoom area which is part of the townland of Faughalstown.

Faughalstown townland with Kiltoom townland to the north and west.
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/fore/faughalstown/faughalstown/faughalstown/
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/fore/faughalstown/coolure/kiltoom/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4137350#map=14/53.6757/-7.3184

Pakenham Hall estate further north in this MapGenie 6 Inch First Edition Black [1837-1842] map from The OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.

https://arcg.is/1GD9Xf
https://arcg.is/1zOO0D


Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Feichin on Tuesday 07 March 23 20:52 GMT (UK)
Hi,  My family, Connor, Lee, Reil, and Duff, originated on the Pakenham Estate and lived in the Kiltoom area which is part of the townland of Faughalstown.  The more recent baptisms and marriages were held in Mayne parish church in Coole however, some of the earlier ones were said to be in the Delvin parish.  I have never found any records of my family in Delvin.  I would have thought Castlepollard would have covered the area but no.  Can anyone shed light on when the changes were made and am I right to continue to search Delvin?

Hello Kelger123,

Could you clarify what you mean by "more recent" and "earlier" in year terms. Also what exactly you were told about Delvin.

Regards,

Feichin
Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Kelger123 on Wednesday 08 March 23 19:42 GMT (UK)
The records I have found, mainly mid 19th century, were from Mayne parish records.  I have seen references in earlier searches that say the parish was Delvin.  I assumed, rightly or wrongly, there was a shift in the boundaries at some point however, I have yet to find anything in the Delvin records.  I was asking if anyone might have an insight into this.  The strange thing is Pakenham Hall is in Castlepollard but the tenants were in Mayne.  Perhaps it was a status thing in that Castlepollard was the main market town of the area?
Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Feichin on Thursday 09 March 23 11:02 GMT (UK)

Hello Kelger123,

I don't know if your last post was meant to be a reply to mine.

Anyway here is my thoughts on the information as given. I think that the reference to Delvin was made by someone who is confusing the civil and church records. With regards to Pakenham Hall (Tullynally Castle), it just depends on what gate you come out of whether you are nearer Castlepollard or Coole.

Regards,

Feichin
Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 09 March 23 11:25 GMT (UK)

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With regards to Pakenham Hall (Tullynally Castle), it just depends on what gate you come out of whether you are nearer Castlepollard or Coole.

Coole considerably further away than Castlepollard.
Pakenhamhall or Tullynally townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/fore/mayne/coolure/pakenhamhall-or-tullynally/

On OpenStreetMap-
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4137658#map=13/53.6859/-7.3394

Some information about Tullynally Castle (Pakenham Hall).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullynally_Castle
https://www.tullynallycastle.ie/
https://www.gardensofireland.org/directory/50/
https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15400321/tullynally-castle-tullynally-county-westmeath


Title: Re: Area of Faughalstown
Post by: Feichin on Thursday 09 March 23 22:26 GMT (UK)

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With regards to Pakenham Hall (Tullynally Castle), it just depends on what gate you come out of whether you are nearer Castlepollard or Coole.

Coole considerably further away than Castlepollard.
Pakenhamhall or Tullynally townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/fore/mayne/coolure/pakenhamhall-or-tullynally/

On OpenStreetMap-
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4137658#map=13/53.6859/-7.3394

Some information about Tullynally Castle (Pakenham Hall).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullynally_Castle
https://www.tullynallycastle.ie/
https://www.gardensofireland.org/directory/50/
https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15400321/tullynally-castle-tullynally-county-westmeath

Kiltaglassan,

I note that you have a habit of posting links to easily accessible information, for reasons I don't understand.

Anyway I stand over my statement, perhaps you should have read it properly before posting a reply. i could say the same about your reply in the Halpins thread.

Feichin