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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Suffolk => England => Suffolk Lookup Requests => Topic started by: windy_miller on Saturday 04 March 23 18:30 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a connection with Suffolk for this unmarried lady. She was alive in 1878 and selling some mill machinery in Ipswich in that year, and appears to have died in Fulham, London in 1914. I'm trying to establish how she came by the property in Belle Vue, Woodbridge Road, Ipswich, and am hoping it may have come via a rellie?
Thanks in advance,
Windy
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No help in how she acquired it but an interesting entry.
UK, City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946
Ipswich Trades Directories
1874
Lunatic Asylums
Miss Sarah Ann Farrant Walter (private)
Bellevue House Woodbridge Road,
Dr B Chevallier, medical attendant.
1851 census HO107 Piece 1800 Folio 447 Page 11
Northbridge Rd, Bellevue Asylum
James Shaw 63
Mary F Shaw 55
Sarah A Walter 28 Neice born Madeley, Shropshire
William Henes 30
Mary Roper 21 Servant
Harriet Wightman 16 Servant
W B 73 patient Architect
W G 63 patient gentleman
W C G 58 patient farmer
W S 25 patient Ship??
E D 63 patient no occupation
E W 41 patient no occupation
E G 46 patient no occupation
Writing is terrible, still trying to work out exact occuption of James Shaw born Yorkshire.
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James Shaw
Marriage Date - 25 Jun 1822
Marriage Place - High Ercall,Shropshire,England
Spouse - Mary Farrant Walter
So Sarah Ann is related to James Shaw through marriage.
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Hi Crisane,
Firstly, a big thanks!!!
So, it seems that S.A.F. Walter owned the Lunatic Asylum at Bellvue House in 1874?
And that she was the niece of James and Mary Shaw (back in 1851).
Is that correct? I’m a bit dyslexic and find these things a bit convoluted.
Windy
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Probate 14 January 1869
Mary Farrant Shaw late of Bellevue House Ipswich in the county of Suffolk, widow, deceased who died 20 october 1868 at belleview House aforesaid was proved at the Principle Registry by the oath of James Falshaw of 26 Castle Street Edinburgh in North Britain, Civil Engineer, sole executor.
Effects under 1500 pounds
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So, it seems that S.A.F. Walter owned the Lunatic Asylum at Bellvue House in 1874?
And that she was the niece of James and Mary Shaw (back in 1851).
Is that correct? I’m a bit dyslexic and find these things a bit convoluted.
Windy
Yes, except that she was the niece by blood family of Mary F Shaw and the niece of James Shaw by his marriage to Mary F Walter.
Have to leave it for now. Will come back to it later.
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Shropshire England Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Mary Farrant Walter
Baptism
Birth Date 1 March 1796
Baptism Date 19 October 1797
Baptism Place - Madeley, Shropshire, England
Religion - Anglican
Father - Reverend Samuel Walter
Mother Sarah Walter
Page number: 7
Reference Number: P180/A/2/2
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Shropshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1900
Sarah Ann Farrant Walter
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1824
Baptism Place: Madeley, Shropshire, England
Religion: Anglican
Father Samuel Elliot Walter
Mother Ann Walter
Page number: 223
Reference Number: P180/A/2/3
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So to me it seems likely that she inherited the Bellvue site from her aunt (or uncle) as they lived at Bellvue House.
Thanks,
Windy
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James Shaw was proprietor of the Bellevue Asylum or Bellevur Retreat back in the 1830s.
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I am having difficulty finding Mary F Shaw in the 1861 census and also Sarah Walter.
The 1901 census is an interesting one with the relationships between all the members of the household not being correct.
1901 RG13 piece 49 folio 159 page 84
No 2 Bolinbroke Rd??
Julian H Gonnet 44 Head Chef de Cuisine born France, Foreign Subject
Elizabeth A Gonnet 24 Wife Bayswater
Julian Gonnet 16 Son Breadmaker born Islington
Francia Gonnet 13 Daughter, Islington
Angeline J Gonnet 12 Daughter, Islington
Jeanne M M Gonnet 8 months Daughter, Hammersmith
Herbert W Sillifant 39 Son, Single, Merchant's clerk CC Islington
Jane L Sillifant 67 Mother Widow Madeley Shropshire
Sarah A F Walter 78 Single, Aunt, Madeley Shropshire
Annie Rampton 21 Servant Single
Julian H Gonnet's first wife has the maiden name Kneip according to the son Julians birth registration on the GRO index. His second wife Elizabeth's maiden name is Bush according to the birth registration of the 8 month old daughter Ivonne Madeleine Marie.
In the censuses the relationships of the members of the household are supposed to be to the head of the household but Herbert W Sillifant age 39 can't be the son of Julian Gonnet age 44.
Jane Sillifant is according to the 1881 census, Herbert's mother and she was a Jane Louise Walter who married an Edwin Sillifant in 1855 which makes her a relative (sister?)of Sarah's and Aunt to Herbert. The taker of the census got it all mixed up, so is there any actual relationship between the Gonnets and Walter/Sillifant families. Maybe they are just living in the same house.
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Thank you so much. Enough to keep me going for a while!
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Bellevue Asylum was always a Private Asylum with just a few residents. Map shows location and more info on Borin's wonderful web site :-)
There is mention of a Post Mill.
https://www.ipswich-lettering.co.uk/russellvillas.html
Pat
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Thanks Pat. Very interesting.
Windy