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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Manor Farm on Wednesday 01 March 23 14:49 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am trying to find out any information about my gt.gt grandparents, John and Alexandrina MacGillicud dy, last known address Sackville Place, Dublin c1850. My gt grandfather moved to Middlesex and married a local girl, he tried to trace his parents and siblings Rosina, Emilly and Achilles but no luck.
If anyone could help or point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
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Welcome to Rootschat :D
A bit more information would help. What was the name of your great grandfather and when and where was he born?
I assume that great grandfather had three siblings called Rosina, Emily and Achilles. Do you have any idea when and where they were born?
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Just found an image on Find My Past of an Extract from Census Return of 18 (The year is not stated).
Applicant is Arthur John MacGillicuddy (69 -70). Address is 23 Lichfield Grove, Church End, Finchley, London N
It appears to be dated 6.7.17 with a couple of later dates in July. So presumably 1917.
The parents are given as John and Alexandrina MacGillicuddy. Three names listed, Emily, Rosina, Achille. Dublin with street names Sackville Place and Southville Place.
The rest of it basically says that as there are no reg. of births in Ireland until 1864, the best evidence of age is by obtaining a baptismal certificate.
I haven't given every single detail, as this can be viewed on Find My Past.
Record is:- 1841-51
Ireland Census Search Forms 1841 & 1851
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the Irish 1851 census return , (free to view) IF YOU CANT ACCESS find my past
gives an address in London
23 Lichfield Grove Church End, Finchely London N
Father John
Mother Alexandrina
other names on form
Arthur John
Emily
Rosina
Achille
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I see from his sons marriage he is deceased in 1878 , where did he die
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There is this death on Free BMD but it is not showing on GRO and no age given.
Deaths Dec 1862
MACGILLICUDDY John St Giles 1b 325
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Well spotted
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Thank you all for your help.
My gt.grandfather was Arthur John MacGillicuddy and the earliest record I can find is when he is listed as living in Bird in the Bush Road with his wife and child, my grandfather. I cannot find anything about him before then other than he tried to find his parents and siblings when he was older. It seems strange that five people can disappear without a trace.
I know about the troubles in Dublin and a lot of records were lost but I live in hope that there are MacGillicuddy's out there who may know something.
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When Arthur John MacGillicuddy married in 1878 his father is recorded as John MacGillicuddy, deceased; profession - gentleman
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This looks very likely in 1871 for Arthur. He is transcribed as ‘McGilliarddy’ on one site but the page reads McGillicuddy
1871/ 672 /62/ 31
Radnor Terrace, Lambeth
Arthur McGillicuddy boarder 24 yrs General Clerk b Dublin
I would say that the reference to the 1851 census return is a search document rather than evidence that the family were recorded in 1851.
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the Irish 1851 census return , (free to view) IF YOU CANT ACCESS find my past
gives an address in London
23 Lichfield Grove Church End, Finchely London N
Father John
Mother Alexandrina
other names on form
Arthur John
Emily
Rosina
Achille
Link from https://genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246688/007246688_00289.pdf
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UK Railway employment records,
A McGillicuddy, Clerk
September 19th 1873, Dublin North Wall,
Company London and North Western
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That is interesting, I now know Arthur John was in Dublin before moving to England plus where he was in 1871 although I notice his birth dates seem to vary between 1847 and 1851.
Does anyone know if 'Gentleman' shown as a deceased persons profession actually means what it says or is it a term used to cover many things.
I will keep searching for for his parents and siblings, I honestly thought with names such as Alexandrina, Rosina and Achille MacGillicuddy they would be an easy find but obviosly not.
Thank you all once again for your help, much appreciated!
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Hi,
I am trying to find out any information about my gt.gt grandparents, John and Alexandrina MacGillicud dy, last known address Sackville Place, Dublin c1850. My gt grandfather moved to Middlesex and married a local girl, he tried to trace his parents and siblings Rosina, Emilly and Achilles but no luck.
If anyone could help or point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
When you say he tried to trace his family, is that family knowledge, or do you mean the pension search?
As you say, they are fairly distinctive names but no sign.
I have tried to search Dublin directories with not much luck.
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Hi,
I am trying to find out any information about my gt.gt grandparents, John and Alexandrina MacGillicud dy, last known address Sackville Place, Dublin c1850. My gt grandfather moved to Middlesex and married a local girl, he tried to trace his parents and siblings Rosina, Emilly and Achilles but no luck.
If anyone could help or point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
When you say he tried to trace his family, is that family knowledge, or do you mean the pension search?
As you say, they are fairly distinctive names but no sign.
I have tried to search Dublin directories with not much luck.
As far as I am aware he was trying to trace his family, nothing was ever mentioned about his parents and siblings. I wondered if they moved abroad as he moved to England, surely if they were also in England there would be some sort of paper trail. They are distinctive names so too are the names of Arthur Johns children, my grandfather was Julius Arthur and two of his siblings were named after Arthur Johns siblings, Rosina and Emily, sadly both died in their first year.
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That form though, I think, was relevant to Arthur’s application for a pension and was trying to prove his birth details rather than trying to trace his relatives.
As you say, all seems to be relevant as he uses those names for his children.
It is puzzling and frustrating.