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Title: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 28 February 23 04:33 GMT (UK)

Kia ora

I would really appreciate it if anyone can tell me any of what the Latin says in this.  I am having trouble working out exactly the space that it fits into.  Wonderful maps of Sussex by Norden.

Nga mihi
Bronwen
Aotearoa

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 28 February 23 05:08 GMT (UK)

Someone might be able to work out some of the words but it’s really blurry and most of it is unreadable on my device. See what others say, but they may ask for a clearer image.

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 28 February 23 07:26 GMT (UK)

Thanks.  I am unable to get a clearer image but it is here
https://www.sussexpictures.co.uk/urban/map-manor-middleton-1606-5977911.html

Attached the top right square.

Nga mihi
Bronwen
Aotearoa

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: GR2 on Tuesday 28 February 23 09:07 GMT (UK)

A description of the manor of Middleton in the county of Sussex, the lands of Sir John Spencer, made in the month of August in the year 1606 by John Norden.

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: spendlove on Tuesday 28 February 23 14:45 GMT (UK)

Hi,

Are you having difficulty working out how plan of 1602 fits in to days landscape because land fell into the sea including St. Nicholas Church?

According to Sussex Record Society, there was a survey of 1606 giving info on the Church perhaps worth contacting them or the Record Office.

Would suggest that the plan 1602, contains the field names on each section and may well have a description which goes with it, but not photographed by Record Office.

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 28 February 23 18:53 GMT (UK)

Thanks GR2 - I assume that is the transcribed Latin on the top right.  There are other bits and pieces on the main picture if you have any idea of them I would like to know.

Spendlove, yes how it fits in today.  Seems odd to me when I look at a map how any of it could fall into the sea.  Thanks for your suggestions.  Yes I assumed they were field names of the time.

Nga mihi nui (very best wishes)
Bronwen

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: keldon on Tuesday 28 February 23 19:24 GMT (UK)

The history of Middleton is detailed here including the map redrawn to make it clearer.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/sussex/vol5/pt1/pp190-204

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: BronwenS on Tuesday 28 February 23 19:43 GMT (UK)

Marvellous, many thanks.

Bronwen
Aotearoa

Title: Re: Map of the manor of Middleton 1606 surveyed by John Norden
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 28 February 23 23:42 GMT (UK)

Quote from: keldon on Tuesday 28 February 23 19:24 GMT (UK)

The history of Middleton is detailed here including the map redrawn to make it clearer.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/sussex/vol5/pt1/pp190-204

That is so fascinating and I have no connection to the area whatsoever! (other than being a fellow NZer of Bronwyn)

Lucky you Bronwyn, though painstakingly research rather than luck has brought you this far.